Atari Sells Civilization Franchise!

[Jon Shafer]

Yeah, but their community is much more active, which is generally how you judge between forums and their relative success.

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Trip
We can compare them 24 hours later, I think that CFC will still hold a fairly large lead.

Yeah, probably. After seeing huge amount of the Civ3 list ignored, and then Firaxis blaming most of the problems on listing to the listers, maybe everyone just got a bit pissed off with the whole thing? Anyway, as I said: just another demonstration that the entire community turns over at every installment in the series. Civ is getting dull.

[snoopy369]

What *I* want to know is ...

Why don't we know yet who bought the franchise?

[Jon Miller]

I still buy civ, and I will buy the next one (it is no longer a super game for me, but it is still a good one).

Jon Miller

[VetLegion]

If I see one spearman defeat a tank, I will burn Firaxis studios to the ground.

If they go 3D just for the sake of being 3D, I will destroy them.

If I see any more dumbification of my favourite game, I will have my vengeance.




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Why don't developers get warm around the heart from all the warmth and goodwill emitted in threads like these?

[Robert]

Poly still has no news-item over the screnshots or the news of cIV we can find in this thread / the civ4 forum thread.

poly is no civ-community anymore

[VetLegion]

Yeah, it's full of religion freaks nowadays

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Trip
I started identical threads at CFC and Apolyton at the same time about the Civ 4 screenshots, and after 3 hours, the Apolyton thread has around 100 views, while the CFC thread has around 700.

I don't suppose that had anything to do with the fact that on CFC the news was on the front page soon after it was posted? Had you submitted a news report to us as well, Dan might have been able to pick it up and post a news item timely. Now it had to wait until I got up this morning and checked the Civ4 forum. And since I actually have a life and went out last night, that was pretty late.

When you Google for "Civ4", Apolyton has the first 2 hits, CFC is somewhere halfway down page 3. Who's more successful now?

[Harovan]

If Civ4 is a buggy mess upon release just like Civ3 was, I will save my money. Firaxis may have a record to write good games (tho I see it seriously tainted), but their record of leaving their customers alone in the rain with a bugfest game is almost as bad as Activisions. I will not be fooled again with foul promises like buy the next 2 XPs and have a perfect game. Won't work anymore. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

[alva]

shame on you. Fool me twice...

Oi, don't go 'round steeling Texan sayings, you hear!!


Oh wait, you didn't...

[Robert]

Locotus: thanks for making it a newsitem.
Where can I find that newsreport link next time?

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Locutus
I don't suppose that had anything to do with the fact that on CFC the news was on the front page soon after it was posted? Had you submitted a news report to us as well, Dan might have been able to pick it up and post a news item timely. Now it had to wait until I got up this morning and checked the Civ4 forum. And since I actually have a life and went out last night, that was pretty late.

Hey, it's not my fault. If anything, CFC has a smaller staff.

When you Google for "Civ4", Apolyton has the first 2 hits, CFC is somewhere halfway down page 3. Who's more successful now?

Sorry, but Google is not the judge of that.

CFC thread is over 3500 views now, almost 13x the Apolyton thread...

[alva]

That's just because you keep refreshing it.

[Jon Shafer]

After doing some research...

Originally posted by Locutus
When you Google for "Civ4", Apolyton has the first 2 hits, CFC is somewhere halfway down page 3. Who's more successful now?

And if you google a proper name, such as "Civilization IV" or "Civ 4" or "Civ IV" - CFC comes up very near the top and Apolyton is no where to be seen.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Locotus: thanks for making it a newsitem.
Where can I find that newsreport link next time?

You have 3 options:

1) At the end of every news item the name of the author is listed as a link. Click on that link and you're taking to the form.

2) Almost every page on this site has a link "Contact us" somewhere (on this page it's just below the Quick Reply form). That also takes you to that same form.

3) If the news item is about/related to a specific forum thread: at the top of every thread, just below the navigation bar (e.g. "Apolyton CS Forums > Miscellaneous > Off-Topic > Atari Sells Civilization Franchise!"), there are a number of links. One of them is "Report this to Apolyton news!". This also takes you to the form and automatically fills in the URL of the thread in the field 'Related URL'.

Originally posted by Trip
Hey, it's not my fault. If anything, CFC has a smaller staff.

I think you'd be surprised by that. On Apolyton, the responsibility for the news lies almost exclusively with DanQ, who is really far too busy with RL to be able to do the job adequately. We keep hiring news editors but they keep resigning again (or just fade away after a while). And when they do do their job, they report maybe one or two items per fortnight, at most. I try to help out where I can but I have a busy RL as well.

Of course, Apolyton is also a much larger site than CFC, we have like 16 different sections, as opposed to only 3 or 4 for CFC.

In the end we report the same stuff as CFC (plus a whole lot more), but if people don't help us out by actively reporting news to us, it will just take us a little longer.

Sorry, but Google is not the judge of that.

Google sorts by how often pages are linked to, which I find a far more reliable measurement than raw hits. Many hits but few links only means that the stuff that is there is not really worth linking to and therefore mostly noise. Plus, because Google is so popular a high ranking on Google generates lots of visitors, which is going to make a difference once the release for Civ4 gets closer.

CFC thread is over 3500 views now, almost 13x the Apolyton thread...

Well, with that 10 hour advantage or so that CFC had the Apolyton thread is obviously not gonna be able to catch up anymore. It also doesn't help that you posted about it in this thread as well. Lots of people probably won't find it necessary to check out two or three threads on the same topic (here, in the Civ4 forum or on CFC).

Plus, most reactions on CFC are along the lines of 'whao, that looks weird', while on Apolyton there's actual meaningful discussion going on about the new info on features and stuff. I prefer my threads rich in texture and low on fluff, so for me Apolyton still rules all