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  • #76
    Re: Can Western ideals of female "beauty" become any more phony?

    Originally posted by Winston
    Inspired by the Hooters lawsuit thread, allow me to rant on a little here.

    What kind of idealised image of women is it we are mostly presented with in print media, TV, movies, advertising, porn etc. these days? To me, more and more, it's not a pleasant image. In fact it's becoming repulsive.

    I'd like to think I'm not alone in this, but sadly from lately browsing through some "babe threads" and observing what other people present as their "perfect beauties", I start to feel that my idea of what constitutes female beauty is more uncommon than I had thought and hoped.

    I don't like big, unshapely, ridiculous-looking breast implants.
    I don't like extreme amounts of make up, applied in all the wrong places, to make the woman look as slutty and fake as possible, at least to my eyes.
    I don't like artificial solarium tans that make the girls look like they have some incurable skin disease.
    I don't like bleached hair, arranged in stupid looking fashions.
    I don't like overly worked out bodies that are muscular and have coarse features that make them appear not at all feminine.
    I also don't like the way some are obviosly starving themselves bordering on the pathological, making their elbows, shoulders, knees and hips stick out from the rest of the body. I'm not talking anorexics, just the general trend here.
    I don't like cosmetic surgery and lip implants.
    I don't like tattoos.
    I don't like piercings in other places than the ear lobes.



    I like more natural looking women. Not fakes. That's not to say that all cosmetic enhancements in the wider sense of the term are bad, not at all, it's just that some of the complaints listed above are becoming much too extreme and prevalent in our mainstream culture. At least for my liking.

    That's why, more and more, I'm looking to Japan and other places outside the Western sphere of influence, "beauty"-wise, for a little eye candy and light entertainment...

    Discuss, and thanks for listening.
    I agree with everything you say with the possible exception of athletic women. I don't like body builders or modern gymnasts, but ice skaters or even "handsome" women like say Annika Sorenstam who aren't exactly beautiful but who look healthy are fine by me.

    I too hate makeup, breast implants, bleached blonde hair, piercings, tatooes, lip injections and big hair with a passion. I also don't care for fashions that make a girl look slutty, that's my job! Give me a girl who is has wholesome good looks anyday.
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    But he touched it too much!
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    • #77
      I prefer smart healthy fun-loving semi-athletic cute girls


      Dama mi, hu er så fin
      hu vasker ned hele leiligheten min.
      Hun har faste bryster og rompa den æ'kke svær
      og hun elsker å vaske mine skitne klær.

      Hun har aldri mensen, hun er alltid blid,
      og hun driter i om jeg har noen damer på si.
      Hun er en kombinert husmor og modell,
      og i senga har'a sans for ville sprell.
      CSPA

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      • #78
        Thin women
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        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
          Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
          Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by alva
            Thin women
            Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
            Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
            Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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            • #81
              fake tan
              bleached hair
              nose and tounge piercings
              too much fake tan
              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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              • #82
                The Ted Striker Song

                Oh my god
                Becky, look at her butt
                Its so big
                She looks like one of those rap guys girlfriends
                Who understands those rap guys
                They only talk to her because she looks like a total prostitute
                I mean her butt
                It's just so big
                I can't believe it's so round
                It's just out there
                I mean, it's gross
                Look, she's just so black

                I like big butts and I can not lie
                You other brothers can't deny
                That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
                And a round thing in your face
                You get sprung
                Wanna pull up tough
                Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed
                Deep in the jeans she's wearing
                I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
                Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
                And take your picture
                My homeboys tried to warn me
                But that butt you got
                Make Me so horney
                Ooh, rump of smooth skin
                You say you wanna get in my benz
                Well use me use me cuz you aint that average groupy

                I've seen them dancin'
                To hell with romancin'
                She's Sweat,Wet, got it goin like a turbo vette

                I'm tired of magazines
                Saying flat butts are the thing
                Take the average black man and ask him that
                She gotta pack much back

                So Fellas (yeah) Fellas(yeah)
                Has your girlfriend got the butt (hell yeah)
                Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that healthy butt
                Baby got back

                (LA face with Oakland booty)

                I like'em round and big
                And when I'm throwin a gig
                I just can't help myself
                I'm actin like an animal
                Now here's my scandal

                I wanna get you home
                And UH, double up UH UH
                I aint talkin bout playboy
                Cuz silicone parts were made for toys
                I wannem real thick and juicy
                So find that juicy double
                Mixalot's in trouble
                Beggin for a piece of that bubble
                So I'm lookin' at rock videos
                Knockin these bimbos walkin like hoes
                You can have them bimbos
                I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
                A word to the thick soul sistas
                I wanna get with ya
                I won't cus or hit ya
                But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna --
                Til the break of dawn
                Baby Got it goin on
                Alot of pimps won't like this song
                Cuz them punks lie to hit it and quit it
                But I'd rather stay and play
                Cuz I'm long and I'm strong
                And I'm down to get the friction on

                So ladies (yeah), Ladies (yeah)
                Do you wanna roll in my Mercedes (yeah)
                Then turn around
                Stick it out
                Even white boys got to shout
                Baby got back

                (LA face with the Oakland booty)

                Yeah baby
                When it comes to females
                Cosmo ain't got nothin to do with my selection
                36-24-36
                Only if she's 5'3"

                So your girlfriend throws a Honda
                Playin workout tapes by Fonda
                But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
                My anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hun
                You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt
                Some brothers wanna play that hard role
                And tell you that the butt ain't gold
                So they toss it and leave it
                And I pull up quick to retrieve it
                So cosmo says you're fat
                Well I ain't down with that
                Cuz your waste is small and your curves are kickin
                And I'm thinkin bout stickin
                To the beanpole dames in the magazines
                You aint it miss thing
                Give me a sista I can't resist her
                Red beans and rice did miss her
                Some knucklehead tried to dis
                Cuz his girls were on my list
                He had game but he chose to hit 'em
                And pulled up quick to get with 'em
                So ladies if the butt is round
                And you wanna triple X throw down
                Dial 1-900-MIXALOT and kick them nasty thoughts
                Baby got back
                Baby got back
                Little in tha middle but she got much back
                Little in tha middle but she got much back
                Little in tha middle but she got much back
                Little in tha middle but she got much back
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #83
                  goddamn you, alva, I just finished my lunch...
                  I watched you fall. I think I pushed.

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                  • #84
                    Everything is best with some limits, or else you get something like Comrade Tass's drawing. It's really not about size or color of individual parts, its about the overall proportions, balance of complimentary and supplementary colors, etc.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by alva
                      Thin women
                      That's more dead than thin.
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Alex
                        goddamn you, alva, I just finished my lunch...
                        Tell that to her.
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by alva
                          Thin women
                          That's not thin... That's bones and skin.

                          And what's wrong with Britney Spears' body?
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #88
                            I think that was for a specific cause, and not meant to portray an image of beauty.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #89
                              I generally agree with what you said Winston, though I'd be interested to see what women (celebrities) you DO find attractive?

                              I've heard plenty of times how people want curves (yet also don't mind small breasts) and don't like skinny women blah blah blah... But when they have to put their money where their mouth is, they come up with someone like, say, Heidi Klum.

                              A lot of it seems more to do with being reactionary, non-conformist and making yourself look morally superior or so...

                              But of course, I fall for that myself too (though not as much as everyone else, of course ).


                              Oh, and there's one link I've been dying to post here for some time now, but it probably isn't "Apolyton-safe", sadly enough... So I'll just stick to dropping a keyword: domai (read the essentials first).
                              Civilization II: maps, guides, links, scenarios, patches and utilities (+ Civ2Tech and CivEngineer)

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Mercator
                                A lot of it seems more to do with being reactionary, non-conformist and making yourself look morally superior or so...
                                Truth
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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