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  • #61
    I agree with Winston to a certain degree, as what he described, more or less, is what the popular media trying to portray. If you look at the cover of women rags (e.g. Cosmo), or men rags (e.g. Maxim), or for singers (e.g. Britney Spear), etc., etc.
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    • #62
      you people are freaks? you don't like big tits?

      Yeah I don't like breast jobs, but they are still nice to look at (when covered up- I don't like to see scars)

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      • #63
        Big tits. Great ass. You can keep the all natural crap. I'll take the surgically implanted cushioning any day.
        Duck

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        • #64
          Women come in all shapes and sizes.

          I am always surprised by the type of women I end up meeting.
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          • #65
            I used to not care for asian women at all but now they are extremley attractive. Vietnamese girls PWN all other asian women.

            The least attractive women to me are Euro blonde hair blue eyes girls and black women.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Urban Ranger
              I agree with Winston to a certain degree, as what he described, more or less, is what the popular media trying to portray. If you look at the cover of women rags (e.g. Cosmo), or men rags (e.g. Maxim), or for singers (e.g. Britney Spear), etc., etc.
              Also, the Chinese magazines and plethora of pop stars. They make Britney and Maxim seem conservative and educational. It's quite obvious that they have an effect on how the girls here view themselves. So many complain about being too fat, while already being toothpicks. One of my students told me that she wanted to be a model but didn't think she was tall enough. Then there's the hair dyeing and plastic surgery. There no real escaping it in developed and developing nations. Priorities change.
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              • #67
                If you don't like makeup, anorexia or dyed hair, then Japan isn't really the answer to your problems...
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                • #68
                  Makeup
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                  • #69
                    Makeup Sorry, don't like the smell and taste.
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                    • #70
                      Makeup

                      Really depends on how it's done...
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                        Makeup

                        Really depends on how it's done...
                        Yeah, some girls can make themselves look worse.

                        Others can turn themselves from Plain Jane to Goddess


                        I don't think some guys realize how much even "natural" women are wearing. The key is to make it look like you're not wearing any. Girls who are good at it pick complementary colors and not ones that stick out by saying, "HEY LOOK AT HOW MUCH MAKEUP I HAVE ON."

                        Eye shadow PWNZ
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                        • #72
                          The key is to make it look like you're not wearing any.


                          Yep.

                          Eye shadow PWNZ


                          Word.

                          One of my friends had some sexy ass eye shadow on the other day. Almost had to throw the friendship out the window right there...
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                            Big tits. Great ass. You can keep the all natural crap. I'll take the surgically implanted cushioning any day.
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                            • #74
                              Re: Can Western ideals of female "beauty" become any more phony?

                              DL!

                              Originally posted by Winston
                              I don't like big, unshapely, ridiculous-looking breast implants.
                              I don't like extreme amounts of make up, applied in all the wrong places, to make the woman look as slutty and fake as possible, at least to my eyes.
                              I don't like artificial solarium tans that make the girls look like they have some incurable skin disease.
                              I don't like bleached hair, arranged in stupid looking fashions.
                              I don't like overly worked out bodies that are muscular and have coarse features that make them appear not at all feminine.
                              I also don't like the way some are obviosly starving themselves bordering on the pathological, making their elbows, shoulders, knees and hips stick out from the rest of the body. I'm not talking anorexics, just the general trend here.
                              I don't like cosmetic surgery and lip implants.
                              I don't like tattoos.
                              I don't like piercings in other places than the ear lobes.

                              Amen!

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                              • #75
                                I agree with some of Winston's points ...

                                Obviously, "unshapely, ridiculous-looking" breast implants aren't any good. I'm much in favour of big breasts otherwise, however.

                                As for make-up, I firmly believe the best make-up is the one that improves the girl's looks without you realizing she's even wearing make-up. Unfortunately, plenty of girls herearounds use very obvious make-up, that they'd be better off without. (Incidentally, I hate the pseudo-feministic idea of make-up as a way of expressing one's personality.)

                                I can't say I've seen any trend for tans that make girls "look like they have some incurable skin disease". I rather like dark skin, tho; tends to be more even in colour.

                                I couldn't care less if girls bleach their hair. What is funny is that so many dark-haired girls bleach theirs, while so many blondes colours theirs dark.

                                I don't much like heavily muscled bodies. Can't say I'm seeing a trend towards that either, tho.

                                I do like thin girls. Not outright anorectics (does anyone?), but thin.

                                Cosmetic surgery? I don't have a capsule opinion.

                                I hate tattoos.

                                I don't like piercings. Ear-lobes are the most acceptable ones, but I don't like them either.
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