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Can Western ideals of female "beauty" become any more phony?
Originally posted by Sava
I like how the arms are under the boobs in Tass's pic
They're not in real life??
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I'm not sure we're living on the same planet. You seem to say that Pamela Anderson (she fits your list of grievances almost perfectly) is the incarnation of the so-called Western Ideal. My question is: whose ideal? Certainly not mine. Sure, I would **** her, since she looks like a lot of fun in bed. But she's definitely not my type. And I guess most of my friends would say the same. What's my type? That's a hard question to answer. As a matter of fact, it would be easier to say what I don't like in a girl. For instance, I love asians. They're gorgeous and all. But they tend not to shave down there. And that's a major turn off for me. I love to go down on women and, when doing so, I like to see the object of my veneration.
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Re: Can Western ideals of female "beauty" become any more phony?
Originally posted by Winston
I don't like big, unshapely, ridiculous-looking breast implants.
I don't like extreme amounts of make up, applied in all the wrong places, to make the woman look as slutty and fake as possible, at least to my eyes.
I don't like artificial solarium tans that make the girls look like they have some incurable skin disease.
I don't like bleached hair, arranged in stupid looking fashions.
I don't like overly worked out bodies that are muscular and have coarse features that make them appear not at all feminine.
I also don't like the way some are obviosly starving themselves bordering on the pathological, making their elbows, shoulders, knees and hips stick out from the rest of the body. I'm not talking anorexics, just the general trend here.
I don't like cosmetic surgery and lip implants.
I don't like tattoos.
I don't like piercings in other places than the ear lobes.
when you paint it that kind of light, of course no one is going to like it.
If you have a thing for Asians then obviously you're not going to appreciate the Pamela Anderson types. This thread is as artificial as someone like Mr. Fun posting a list of traits he finds unattractive in women.
Since when have the things you've described been considered western female beauty??! ( I am specifically referring to the huge breast implants, excessive make-up, and heroine chic ). Seems like you're attacking a strawman....
That's why, more and more, I'm looking to Japan and other places outside the Western sphere of influence, "beauty"-wise, for a little eye candy and light entertainment...
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Since when have the things you've described been considered western female beauty??! ( I am specifically referring to the huge breast implants, excessive make-up, and heroine chic ). Seems like you're attacking a strawman....
Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing
It's the trend as I see it i tried to describe. Of course there are still stunningly good looking women all over the place. I'm just getting tired of the media and what not all too often catering to the lowest of standards. From where I'm at anyway.
And bringing up Pamela Anderson was a very good illustration of the "standards" I'm taking issue with. I can't get myself to describe her as attractive in any way, other than she breathes oxygen and she's got two X chromosomes. Or so they say.
But I also think : ) Smiley is probably more right than any of us.
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