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  • Originally posted by Serb

    Yup, and Yanukovich's success at Russian-Ukranian talks about delivery of Russian gas to Ukraine for internal Russian prices that are several times lower than worldwide prices, has nothing to do with the competitiveness of Ukraninan steel on worldwide market? FYI, metallurgy is extremly energy consuming process.
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    weve been over this, and why its rational for Russia to charge lower prices to Ukraine.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • Originally posted by Serb


      Oh, my. ....

      His right hand - Mrs. Timoshenko wanted by interpol for corruption and shady deals.
      Nice try, but the news you rely so highly upon has forgotten to tell you that she was there only for a day. When interpol asked Russian prosecutors for additional information and they couldn't provide that, she was removed.

      Doesn't you feel it irritating when institutions such as interpol starts asking unnesscary questions instead of doing as told ?
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • Originally posted by lord of the mark


        Yup. Im sure Poland will cooperate with your attempt to punish Ukraine. Of course, it only makes sense.
        To punish? WTF? They wanted to be "independent from evil Russia", fine! Why the hell we should pay for this? Why we should sell them OUR gas for a prices established within Russian Federation that are several times lower than prices in Europe? Esp. considering that they do not pay even such low prices and only make their debt to Russia bigger and bigger. I say, they spit on Russia, we spit on them. No more kind play. **** them.

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        • Originally posted by lord of the mark


          weve been over this, and why its rational for Russia to charge lower prices to Ukraine.
          It was rational, while Ukraine was one of the four mebers of the economic treaty about united economic space between four countries, we have signed recently.
          If they'll quit, **** them. It's stupid and unprofitable to feed the ****ers who spit on you.

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          • Originally posted by Serb

            Poland is doing better than Russia? You forgive them their 50 billion USD debt and they have borrowed another 100 billion Euro debt just within few years. They are doing just fine, if you ask me.
            Poland GDP - per capital
            1989 - $2082
            2003 - $5355

            IE theyre doing better NOW than when they were part of YOUR empire. Which is what I said not that theyre doing better than Russia. Why misquote me when my actual words are a few posts up?
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • So now, Ukrainians are not your brothers, part of your common nation, but ungratefull "****ers"

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              • Originally posted by Giancarlo


                It was right that the strikes occurred in Yugoslavia....



                Actually election monitors certified the election in Afghanistan as open and honest. The Afghan election was very fair and very honest. The first two rounds of the Ukrainean election was dishonest and rigged. You are a perfect example of someone who is too gullible. You buy the words of your idiotic leader. Yushchenko won fair and square, as Hamid Karzai did. There were thousands and thousands less violations in the third round then there were in the second round. 20,000 election monitors will say the same thing to you. You are just foolish beyond belief. The third round was so fair it struck a new precedent in Ukraine's history.
                No more chating with you, moron.

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                • Originally posted by Serb


                  To punish? WTF? They wanted to be "independent from evil Russia", fine! Why the hell we should pay for this? Why we should sell them OUR gas for a prices established within Russian Federation that are several times lower than prices in Europe? Esp. considering that they do not pay even such low prices and only make their debt to Russia bigger and bigger. I say, they spit on Russia, we spit on them. No more kind play. **** them.
                  how exactly have they spit on you?
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • Originally posted by lord of the mark


                    Poland GDP - per capital
                    1989 - $2082
                    2003 - $5355

                    IE theyre doing better NOW than when they were part of YOUR empire. Which is what I said not that theyre doing better than Russia. Why misquote me when my actual words are a few posts up?
                    Can you provide the data for their external debt for exactly the same years, PLEASE?
                    p.s. Just FYI, Poland was part of the Russian Empire untill 1917, not untill 1989.

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                    • Originally posted by Serb

                      It was rational, while Ukraine was one of the four mebers of the economic treaty about united economic space between four countries, we have signed recently.
                      If they'll quit, **** them. It's stupid and unprofitable to feed the ****ers who spit on you.
                      No it was rational cause youve got plenty of Natural Gas, and if you dont sell it to them, you wont increase sales anywhere else, and the lower the price the more they will use.

                      BTW, who says theyll move to end the economic treaty?
                      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                      • Originally posted by Serb
                        p.s. Just FYI, Poland was part of the Russian Empire untill 1917, not untill 1989.

                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • Originally posted by Heresson
                          So now, Ukrainians are not your brothers, part of your common nation, but ungratefull "****ers"

                          They are our brothers, but that doesn't mean they aren't idiots at the same time and that we should feed those idiots.

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                          • Originally posted by Serb

                            Can you provide the data for their external debt for exactly the same years, PLEASE?
                            p.s. Just FYI, Poland was part of the Russian Empire untill 1917, not untill 1989.
                            a country thats growing rapidly can afford an increase in debt. Polands growth is broadbased, and appears to be sustainable.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • Originally posted by lord of the mark


                              No it was rational cause youve got plenty of Natural Gas, and if you dont sell it to them, you wont increase sales anywhere else, and the lower the price the more they will use.
                              It's very weird logic, if you ask me. So if you have a stokpile of a thousand units of something, which worth a thousand dollars and you have buyers who are ready to by 500 of your units for a price of 500 $, it means you have to sell the rest for a price of 10$, right?

                              BTW, who says theyll move to end the economic treaty?
                              Yushenko.

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                              • Originally posted by lord of the mark


                                a country thats growing rapidly can afford an increase in debt. Polands growth is broadbased, and appears to be sustainable.
                                Bs. They live in debt. IIRC, they don't have the surplus to repay their growing debt. Thier growth is a bubble.

                                Btw, can you PLEASE provide the info about the percentage of unemployed in Poland for 1989 and 2003 accordingly? I heard thier unemplyement rate was about zero in 1989 and about 20% now. I guess its another sign of prosperous economy, right?

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