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  • #766
    Originally posted by Serb

    On the other hand, from economic point of view, the government of Yanukovich IS THE MOST SUCCESSFULL government of Ukraine, since she get the independence in 1991.
    Yup, Yanukovich is the man responsible for the increase in global steel prices thats helped out a steel exporting country. Yup, China has NOTHING to do with it. Kinda like how the rise in oil prices shows the economic brilliance of Putin. (oh and Kaddafi, Hugh Chavez, Sukarnoputri, and so many others.)

    So will you know concede the economic brilliance of the democratic leaders of Poland, Czecho, Hungary, and the Baltics, all of whom are doing so much better since theyve left youre empire?
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #767
      Originally posted by The Vagabond


      On the surface, yes. But not under the surface!

      Its all a joke. Gotcha.
      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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      • #768
        Originally posted by Giancarlo


        Ukraine never got real independence from Moscow. Kuchma was a servant to Moscow and everybody knew it. Economic possibility and growth was squandered to please Moscow. Yushchenko represents a new change and you have no evidence to back yourself up. You only lay these stupid accusations that he cancelled these deals.. but with whom? The Russians? Of course... the most unprofitable country in the world. Ukraine has experienced economic growth under Yushchenko in the past, but Yushchenko was for the most part undermined by Kuchma. Kuchma was the one directing the country. And you are a liar about that accusation of corruption. Kuchma and Yanukovich are the old guards of corruption in Ukraine. It is well substantiated. You try to make accusations but you have no evidence at all. Ukraine never got true independence as Yanukovich was nothing more then a lackey for Moscow.
        How can I prove anything to such an ? No matter what I'll say, you'll keep whining- "no, no, no". I know you Fez, you are hopeless.
        The fact that Ukraine has never experienced SUCH economic growth as under Yanukovich's government is undeniable. All you have to do is to make a basic research about the subject, before engageing into debate.

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        • #769
          Originally posted by Giancarlo


          I never said it was, fool. That is why I said Ukraine and the baltic states. Maybe if you would read my posts for a change you would stop acting like a highly irrational person.
          You've said - "Ukraine and OTHER Baltic states".

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          • #770
            Originally posted by Giancarlo


            No it is not. It is a organization full of red tape... underneath as well... that is all it is.
            You have to look deeper, under this 'underneath'.
            Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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            • #771
              Originally posted by Serb

              How can I prove anything to such an ? No matter what I'll say, you'll keep whining- "no, no, no". I know you Fez, you are hopeless.
              The fact that Ukraine has never experienced SUCH economic growth as under Yanukovich's government is undeniable. All you have to do is to make a basic research about the subject, before engageing into debate.
              Yanukovich was responsible for a world wide rise in steel prices? That's one question that was posed in the past. And what happened under Yanukovich's government? No changes to the Ukrainean economy really. It is plagued with inefficency and corruption. 95% of the wealth in the country is on Yanukovich and Kuchma's personal friends. The now former ruling party of Kuchma had all the wealth. Something Yanukovich was responsible for. You are the hopeless one. Afterall, you Russians manage to elect a dictator like Putin.. wait... Putin somehow won what was it... 75% of the vote in your country...? I wonder why nobody investigated that. Yanukovich and Kuchma allowed corruption to get out of control. You have to do basic research on your own country and Ukraine. You obviously know nothing.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #772
                Originally posted by Serb

                You've said - "Ukraine and OTHER Baltic states".
                Obviously I made a typo you fool, I never meant that Ukraine was a baltic state. Of course it isn't. And looking back, I never said it.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #774
                    The great "democratic" work of Russia:



                    What will be next? Kiev?
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #775
                      So, my friend Serb, we lost again. When is this going to stop?
                      Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                      • #776
                        Originally posted by Giancarlo


                        Obviously I made a typo you fool, I never meant that Ukraine was a baltic state. Of course it isn't. And looking back, I never said it.
                        Yeah, right. A pity excuses of the ignorant fool.
                        Considering your outstanding geography skills, it wouldn't be a problem for you to get US citizenship.

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                        • #777
                          Originally posted by Serb

                          Yeah, right. A pity excuses of the ignorant fool.
                          Considering your outstanding geography skills, it wouldn't be a problem for you to get US citizenship.
                          I could name every country in the region. My geography skills are far more advanced then yours. You are the ignorant stupid fool. You support Yanukovich and that is pure ignorance.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #778
                            Originally posted by Giancarlo
                            The great "democratic" work of Russia:

                            What will be next? Kiev?
                            The great "democratic" work of USA:

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                            • #779
                              Originally posted by Serb


                              The great "democratic" work of USA:

                              Little red X. But if that refers to Iraq you are wrong. Iraq is having elections. Chechnya is ruled by Russia's military
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #780
                                Originally posted by Giancarlo
                                The great "democratic" work of Russia:



                                What will be next? Kiev?
                                The great "democratic" work of USA:
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