The Triumph of Christianity

[Heresson]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The Triumph of Ignorance is more like it.

Yeah, I guess the native African beliefs are much more enlightened

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Heresson
Yeah, I guess the native African beliefs are much more enlightened

They are no more enlightened than the ignornance of Christianity. All religions are universally wrong.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Including atheism?

For if there is no religion, there is no atheism either.

Not true. Religion just disappears and people keep on moving.

I don't see what any of this has to do with what Heresson posted. He's not saying that they are anti-white.

Secondly, ever hear of Zanzibar? Africans did trade slaves to each other, and to the Moslems long before the Christians came. What would happen is that the coastal tribes would take slaves from inland tribes, and sell the slaves off to Europeans.

Try read it one more time and add a little bit of irony

[Heresson]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


They are no more enlightened than the ignornance of Christianity. All religions are universally wrong.

Except for communism.

For communism is a religion of some kind.
An ideology that wants to dominate personal view of the world, of behaving, of shaping the laws...
It has its saints too.

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by Heresson






Details and sources, please?
As long as I know, the only thing Christians destroyed in Alexandria was Serapeum temple.
I think there was a library (not the same with the Great Library, though having similar roots) attached to it, but I doubt it was destroyed then.

It seem like in USA Canada doesnot do than very good job of teaching history. [/QUOTE]

- I'm not from USA nor from Canada
- Now, what did You mean then by saying that

Muslims in Vth century?
Or is it that there was the next fire, when muslims entered the city?
Why so, if Alexandria was in fact taken peacefully?
And why aren't You making yourself clear?
Why are trashing this thread with discussions that have little to do with the topic and no link to any part of the previous discussion? [/QUOTE]

Did you see my other5 supid. When Arab trook the city peaceful than fire broke out as they use candle and oil lamp to read by. Get than brain idiot.

[Heresson]

You didn't write that, that's one.
You're a rude DL, that's two.

[Ben Kenobi]

Religion just disappears and people keep on moving.

To what?

If there is no more religion, how can what they move to be called atheism?

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
To what?

If there is no more religion, how can what they move to be called atheism?

You could call it practised atheism
people wouldn´t know about the definition atheism (as long as they don´t encounte a religious system) but would act like atheists.

Just like many people around the world call themselves christians, but never ever read a passage of the bible, visited a church or obeyed any of the ten amendments (or a mix of these things)
and therefore de facto should rather be called practising atheists than christians.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Heresson
Except for communism.

For communism is a religion of some kind.
An ideology that wants to dominate personal view of the world, of behaving, of shaping the laws...
It has its saints too.

All you've managed to prove is that communism is wrong, not that religion is right

[Ben Kenobi]

people wouldn´t know about the definition atheism (as long as they don´t encounte a religious system) but would act like atheists.

Just like many people around the world call themselves christians, but never ever read a passage of the bible, visited a church or obeyed any of the ten amendments (or a mix of these things)

and therefore de facto should rather be called practising atheists than christians.

I see.

Does this mean that those who do behave as Christians do but have never heard of Christianity, ought to be considered Christians?

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I see.

Does this mean that those who do behave as Christians do but have never heard of Christianity, ought to be considered Christians?

I would say no,
as (especially for some fundamental christian sects)
you must have knowledge about certain things tlo be called christian.

Many fundamental christians for example would probably definitely say no,
because these people would have to accept Jesus as their only Lord and savior and therefore, as they don´t know about Jesus, are considered to be bloody heathens and go to hell, no matter how strong they obeyed the ten amendments and no matter how much good things they did to the world.

My own Opinion is alike. If they naturally act according to the ten amendments and the like, but don´t believe in any gods, they rather should be consideres (practising?) Atheists than christians (as Christianity involves knowledge of Christ)
(Practised atheism on the other hand doesn´t necessary involve any special behavior, aside from the standpoint that there aren´t any gods and everything could be explained by natural causes, so atheists could aside from this behave like christians but still be practising atheists)

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Heresson
No it is not, at least not today

Is that what you think, or do you actually have something that supports your position?

Originally posted by Heresson
because it is converting people by showing them that your faith is good and orders to care about other people?

How to fish correctly?

Originally posted by Heresson
The religion inspired many people to doing good.

Just as many are committing evil acts as well. Ever heard of The Lord's Army?

Originally posted by Heresson
Perhaps it will, and if God exists, the Africans will have a chance to go to Heaven.

Nah, Pascal's Wager was shown to be a bad one.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Is that what you think, or do you actually have something that supports your position?

- simply other behaviour would be against the teachings of the church
- it's the situation as it is in some countries I know in past and present: You didn't have to be a catholic to attend to a jesuit school, or Christian to attend a Christian one.
Anyway, do You have sth that supports your position?

How to fish correctly?

Excuse me, but I don't understand this point.

Just as many are committing evil acts as well.

it's simply not true.

Ever heard of The Lord's Army?

It was mentioned here. But be so nice and tell me more about it.
Do You have any more present examples of the evil being caused by Christianity? One regional fundamental group is not enough

Nah, Pascal's Wager was shown to be a bad one.

What I disliked in it was that it claimed faith is a matter of will, and forgot that You don't have to just believe, You have to do various other stuff.
Still, there's some point in it.
And there's some point in my post.
You can't be absolutely sure that God doesn't exist.
And if there's a probability that He does, believing in Him gives great advantages.

[Drake Tungsten]

Christianity

Western societies weren't dying out when they still believed in it...

[Heresson]

I indeed think it is connected.
Majority of people stop religious activity due to "lack of time", for they are engulfed in work, wanting to earn more and more and are angry at restrictions in their hedonistic lifestyles.
Only then they start to think out an excuse for their behaviour.
Dieing out of Europeans is due to the same problem - they claim they can not afford children, because they want to live on higher level - while it is not the only thing the children need and not the only thing they need