Falluja operation underway

[Chemical Ollie]

Oh, how convenient, let's use flame trowers and hollow-tip ammo then...

[DanS]

Rock and roll.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ned
The main issue is getting Zarqawi. I have a gut feeling he has already gone and is in Baghdad.

I thought the main issue was getting bin Laden.
So should Bagdad be leveled to the ground too?

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by DanS
Tripledoc: Iraqi forces are not bound by the Geneva convention while fighting insurgents in their own country.

Iraqi forces are under the command of American officers, and the Iraqi guerillas constitute a levee en masse amply protected by the geneva Convention.

Falluja constitutes a part of the Republic of Iraq. Allawi works for the occupation, without popular mandate.

[Patroklos]

Except there were no insurgents at the hospital. And I have seen photographs of doctors beeing forced down to the floor and handcuffed.

Trip, when we have security alerts on my ship I get placed on the groud and secured by the reaction forces because they do not have time at that moment to tell freind from foe. The usually do it with a polite "sorry DISBO", because they know damned well who I am. Being detained doesn't hurt anyone, and it is better then being shot. There are certain realities to doing something like taking down a building. Thumbs up to US/Iraqi troops for doing their best not to kill innocent doctors.

And since you like the Geneva conventions so much, why don't you find me the part about civilians unaffiliated with any official belligerent power taking up arms.

Then find me the part about doing so without uniforms that clearly identify you as a belligerent.

The find me the part about using civilians as sheilds.

Then the part about targeting civilians

The Geneva convention is not you ally in this arguement Tip

[Tripledoc]

That is just like saying that the police should not act according to the law, because they claim to have information that say the supposed criminals are not acting acording to the law.

So it is not a logical argument.

Anyway, I must say that the guerillas are clearly marked. They wear black clothes and covered faces most if the time, and they have weapons. Certainly they are no less marked than the western mercenaries. Also a contravention of the geneva convention to inject these kind of people into battle. In fact mercenaries get absolutely no protection at all.

They are not using civilians as shield, they operate amongst civilians - which is a big difference. Most combat is set in an urban setting.

They are not deliberately targeting civilians.

[Dr Strangelove]

It would be nice to get some of the 380 tons of high explosives back. So long as that stuff is out there it will be a major supply for suicidie bombers. Until recovered or expended it is a major threat to the stability of the area and could be used to provide a major disruption of the impending election.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Tripledoc


I thought the main issue was getting bin Laden.

That was the most transparent of Bush's lies, and you fell for it.

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
It would be nice to get some of the 380 tons of high explosives back. So long as that stuff is out there it will be a major supply for suicidie bombers. Until recovered or expended it is a major threat to the stability of the area and could be used to provide a major disruption of the impending election.

There was an estimated 600,000 tons of explosives in Iraq when the U.S. invaded. Even if you take at face value the Adminstration's claims of having recovered or destroyed 400,000 tons of explosives, that still leaves 200,000 tons out there for the insurgents to potentially use. The 380 tons of explosives harped on before the election, even if they are actually missing, mean jack **** in the greater scheme of things...

[Alexander's Horse]

CHIEF
"Did you find a CO, captain ?"

WILLARD
"There's no ****ing CO here. Let's just
get going."

CHIEF
"Which way, captain ?"

WILLARD
"You know which way, Chief."

CHIEF
"You're on your own, captain. You wanna go on ?
Like this bridge : We build it every night. Charlie
blows it right back up again. Just so the generals can
say the road's open. Think about it. Who cares ?"

WILLARD
"Just get us up the river !"

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Pax
Where did the Iraqi "commando's" come from?

Detroit.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
Oh, how convenient, let's use flame trowers and hollow-tip ammo then...

[Patroklos]

Anyway, I must say that the guerillas are clearly marked. They wear black clothes and covered faces most if the time, and they have weapons. Certainly they are no less marked than the western mercenaries. Also a contravention of the geneva convention to inject these kind of people into battle. In fact mercenaries get absolutely no protection at all.

They are not using civilians as shield, they operate amongst civilians - which is a big difference. Most combat is set in an urban setting.

They are not deliberately targeting civilians.

Yep, that is exactly it Trip, you are so smart!

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten


There was an estimated 600,000 tons of explosives in Iraq when the U.S. invaded. Even if you take at face value the Adminstration's claims of having recovered or destroyed 400,000 tons of explosives, that still leaves 200,000 tons out there for the insurgents to potentially use. The 380 tons of explosives harped on before the election, even if they are actually missing, mean jack **** in the greater scheme of things...

Yup, we should harp about the 200 kiltons of conventional explosives they failed to secure in a year and a half, the morons.

[Drake Tungsten]

Go right ahead. I always enjoy watching you stumble into your latest pwning.