Liberals need to stop sneering at people

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Ming
There are just as many ignorant Dems as there are Repubs... So I love this "Dems are smarter than Repubs" attitude... It shows that people who feel that way may be the most ignorant of all

The average Dem is more educated than the Repuke... and Chegitz is right, even the most obnoxious leftists are not as bad as ML.

[Kuciwalker]

Well, there are some...

[Ming]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Nt in my personal experience. more of the ignorant people I meet tend to be right-wing. This was both North and South. This isn't to say I don't know many very intelligent right-wingers, especially on Apolyton. But let's face it, even here, you have more Fez, ML, Bob Dornan types than left-wing dumbasses like me.

It must be fun having knowing so many ignorant people... But maybe you just consider anybody that disagrees with you ignorant

Most of the people I know are well informed, whether they are liberals or conservatives... But I don't consider people that disagree with me ignorant

[General Ludd]

I always judge how wise people are by the number of times they wink at me in a given conversation.

[Fake Boris]

Yeah you're right, I guess I might be seen as one of the worse of the bunch, along with Tripledoc and Aggie maybe.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


The average Dem is more educated than the Repuke... and Chegitz is right, even the most obnoxious leftists are not as bad as ML.

Now there is a grand sweeping generalization...

The strength of the democratic party is in the major cities... with a lot of support coming from some of the poorest and least educated parts of this country. The Dems have always ridden on the backs of the poor and uneducated

[Ted Striker]

And these major cities have the highest concentration of educated people in the world. San Francisco, Los Angeles, Bostong, Washington DC?

[Ming]

And they also have the LARGEST number of poor and uneducated people in the US as well...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ming
It must be fun having knowing so many ignorant people...

Fun isn't the term I'd use.

But maybe you just consider anybody that disagrees with you ignorant

You, DanS, Adam Smith, etc. are not people I'd consider ignorant. The part of the right-wing which I consider ignorant is that section which thinks the world was created 5800 years ago, who think that no innocent person has ever been accidentally put on death row, thinks the US found WMDs in Iraq, thinks that Iraq was involved in 9/11, etc.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Agathon


With all due respect, I think that this attitude is naive. You cannot "demonstrate" anything to a person who does not hold their beliefs for rational reasons. As I said before, I think that most conservatism is pathological: a psychological response of people who cannot deal with the freedom granted them by modern society. It is quite similar to religion, which explains why most advocates of fundamentalism are politically conservative.

I think, though, that the conclusion gay sex is a sin is logically arrived at from a false premise. The false premise is that homosexuality is voluntary.

[Ming]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

You, DanS, Adam Smith, etc. are not people I'd consider ignorant. The part of the right-wing which I consider ignorant is that section which thinks the world was created 5800 years ago, who think that no innocent person has ever been accidentally put on death row, thinks the US found WMDs in Iraq, thinks that Iraq was involved in 9/11, etc.

Most of the conservatives I know aren't ignorant... And most of them think Bush is an idiot, but would also agree the they couldn't trust Kerry. If the Dems had put up a reasonable candidate, they probably would have won the election due to many Republicans contempt for Bush. I would have loved to have had a viable alternative to Bush.

But this painting of all people who voted for Bush as ignorant and brain washed is really stupid. And this whole Dems are smarter than Repubs attitude is just silly...

Whenever I hear these broad generalizations... I just picture the ward bosses in Chicago rounding up the winos on election day so that they can cast their ballots... and you can bet they are all voting straight Democratic Party tickets

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Ming
And they also have the LARGEST number of poor and uneducated people in the US as well...

Yes, but the difference this time was, the appeal to the electorate didn't play off their bigotry.

In fact in this election one big mistake was the Democrats ignored this segment of the population.

[Ned]

I also think it is possible to argue the issue of abortion logically with a Christian. If one starts with a human who has become braindead, why is it or how can it be murder to disconnect life support?

If the Church finally accepts this simple proposition, then by analogy, it is not murder to disconnect life support from fetus prior to its brain becoming functional.

[DanS]

why is it or how can it be murder to disconnect life support

It isn't. Who says it is?

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Ming
The Dems have always ridden on the backs of the poor and uneducated

I think you meant to say that Dems have always stood up for economic opportunity for all, for civil rights and for quality free public education.