The World Series - St Louis & Boston

[Imran Siddiqui]

It'd only be irony if the Sox were bragging about how it would never happen again. Interesting, yes. Ironic? Nah.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
It'd only be irony if the Sox were bragging about how it would never happen again. Interesting, yes. Ironic? Nah.

They are already talking sweep- and look at the gleew of calling the Yankees the worst team ever- it would be far from just "interesting", it would be a cosmic joke of unparralelled proportions (specially since choking in the WS beats chocking for a pennant).

[Imran Siddiqui]

They are already talking sweep

Well I don't think they are. I think some fools on internet forums (*looks at LoA*) are. If LoA said it would never happen to them, then it'd be ironic wrt to him . You have to have that something extra for irony. It isn't just karma.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

They are already talking sweep

Well I don't think they are. I think some fools on internet forums (*looks at LoA*) are. If LoA said it would never happen to them, then it'd be ironic wrt to him . You have to have that something extra for irony. It isn't just karma.

You are just being pigheaded- of course it would be Ironic- form "greatest comeback of all times" to "greatest collapse of all times" is a LONG way to go.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by GePap


They are already talking sweep- and look at the gleew of calling the Yankees the worst team ever- it would be far from just "interesting", it would be a cosmic joke of unparralelled proportions (specially since choking in the WS beats chocking for a pennant).

Not the worst team, just the biggest chokers.

Think about it - all winter long, you'll get to realize you were three outs away, and couldn't do it. That "great" Yankee bullpen, two games in extra innings, and you just couldn't do it. Two games in the Bronx tenement that Ruth built, and you just couldn't do it. In the last game, you flat out got your asses kicked.

"Who's your dad-dy"



Choke.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by GePap
You are just being pigheaded- of course it would be Ironic- form "greatest comeback of all times" to "greatest collapse of all times" is a LONG way to go.

You are being quite defensive... probably because you don't understand what irony is .

By your interpretation, you'd have to say the Yankees losing after being up 3-0 with three outs to go was ironic because the Yankees aren't supposed to do that. They always pull games out. This time it was Boston who played the part of the Yanks. But that isn't ironic either.

[Arrian]

****in' A. They couldn't have made a few of those errors in the ALCS, could they? Noooo-oh! If they had, the Yanks would have won.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

GePap - have a little objectivity. The '04 Yanks will go down as one of the biggest chokes in history (definitely #1 in Yankees history, quite possibly in sports history). 3-0 lead, back-to-back blown saves, embarrassing loss to a one-legged man, and game 7 drubbing. It really doesn't get much uglier than that.

It's karmic payback for '03, when I think Mystique and Aura were called upon one time too many, and finally said "ok, that's it, we're taking a break next year." After all, those girls need some rest every once and a while.

-Arrian

[Imran Siddiqui]

As from the American Heritage Dictionary, 4th Edition:

Usage Note: The words ironic, irony, and ironically are sometimes used of events and circumstances that might better be described as simply “coincidental” or “improbable,” in that they suggest no particular lessons about human vanity or folly. Thus 78 percent of the Usage Panel rejects the use of ironically in the sentence In 1969 Susie moved from Ithaca to California where she met her husband-to-be, who, ironically, also came from upstate New York. Some Panelists noted that this particular usage might be acceptable if Susie had in fact moved to California in order to find a husband, in which case the story could be taken as exemplifying the folly of supposing that we can know what fate has in store for us. By contrast, 73 percent accepted the sentence Ironically, even as the government was fulminating against American policy, American jeans and videocassettes were the hottest items in the stalls of the market, where the incongruity can be seen as an example of human inconsistency.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ironic

Irony has to rely on some human folly or vanity. If they lose in that way, it'll be ironic wrt LoA, for example. But not most Sox fans, because they are scared to death what fate has in store (they remember their history better ). As long as the Red Sox don't say we are going to sweep or what happened against the Yanks won't happen to us, it isn't ironic in general (wrt Red Sox Nation).

[GePap]

I don't dispute the Yankees choked badly- I do think Sox's fans are too cocky already by far-lets all remmeber that the Sox have also been 3 outs from a victory to blow it (game 6, 1986 anyone?)

[Arrian]

The Sox fans I know aren't cocky at all. Happy, yes. Cocky, no. I think "waiting for disaster to strike" is more apt, actually.

-Arrian

[Brundlefly]

I hope the Cards get swept. I want Scott Rolen to lose. He felt he was too good for Philly.

[Stuie]

Originally posted by bfg9000
I hope the Cards get swept. I want Scott Rolen to lose. He felt he was too good for Philly.

0-8 and 7 lob. Way to go, Scotty!

Nice to see Schilling doing well - now he is a class act.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I do think Sox's fans are too cocky

LoA does NOT equal Sox fans .

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by bfg9000
I hope the Cards get swept. I want Scott Rolen to lose. He felt he was too good for Philly.

More like Philly wanted to short shaft Rolen and not pay him like the best 3B in the game (which he is).

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by Stuie




0-8 and 7 lob. Way to go, Scotty!

Nice to see Schilling doing well - now he is a class act.

Schill lived and died with the Phils. It killed him that our ownership was so cheap and would not spend money on building the team.

He loves it here. He wanted to come back to us before this season. Rolen knew from day one he didnt want to be on an east coast team and was just waiting for free agency.

But even Rolen is better than JD Drew who refused to even put on a Phils uniform.