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Fortunately, Texas is a right to work state, but in any case, you probably know more about union regulations/union law than I do, so I'm not gonna argue with you on the fine points of it except to say that, again, I have no problem with unions, strikes, etc., so long as the state does not protect them from (non-violent) retaliation.
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And I oppose those laws as well, provided we are talking about "rights" from the same perspective. I don't believe that I have a right to employment, for example.Again, laws greatly constrain the rights of workers as I pointed out earlier.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Right to work states are unlibertarian. They prohibit union shops."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Yes, I'm talking about rights as you mean it (see my specific objections)."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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As long as the union shop exists, WITHOUT the union being protected by the government, then I have no problem with it.
But without any government protection, I just don't think we'd see that many union shops. As effective as strikes may be, or may have been in the past, I just don't see them being ALL THAT effective today in the United States.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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As long as the union shop exists, WITHOUT the union being protected by the government, then I have no problem with it.
What are you saying? You think union shops should be prohibited?
But without any government protection, I just don't think we'd see that many union shops.
If a union can't defend itself without the state, it probably wouldn't have been able to get a union shop contract in the first place. That's a pretty big concession.
As effective as strikes may be, or may have been in the past, I just don't see them being ALL THAT effective today in the United States.
Why's that?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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No he doesn't; he thinks union shops should be legal, but employer should be completely free to try and break unions, as long as they don't violate a contractual obligation.Originally posted by Ramo
As long as the union shop exists, WITHOUT the union being protected by the government, then I have no problem with it.
What are you saying? You think union shops should be prohibited?Comment
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That's odd, I'm not in a union, and I'm doing fine. Interestingly enough, I get by through my own hard work and merit, rather than relying on government rules and regulations and bull****.
Says the man that went to state university and lived off his parents for a good portion of it
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Take a look at who is playing hockey in our NHL rinks next season for your answer.Originally posted by DanS
Do Canadian laws allow companies to crush their unions? Allowing this seems to provide a lot of balance."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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That's actually not true, but I'm not gonna argue about it with someone who's pretty much just trying to be a dick.and lived off his parents for a good portion of itFollow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Why worry about Unions. Just set the minimum wage to whatever you please. Let's pick a number. $25/hr. Sound about right?http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Says the man who wants to put people on the street and take away their government welfare, but will gladly accept going to a university backed by state fundsOriginally posted by David Floyd That's actually not true, but I'm not gonna argue about it with someone who's pretty much just trying to be a dick.
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If anyone is the dick here, it's you.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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No he doesn't; he thinks union shops should be legal, but employer should be completely free to try and break unions, as long as they don't violate a contractual obligation.
Yes, I know he said that. I was trying to clarify what he meant by that statement, which (along with the comment that it's good Texas is a "right to work" state) seems to imply that he believes that as long as legal protection of unions exist, union shops ought to be prohibited."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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The worse part with you is that even with such statements we can't be sure you're joking.Originally posted by Ned
Why worry about Unions. Just set the minimum wage to whatever you please. Let's pick a number. $25/hr. Sound about right?
In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Originally posted by Oncle Boris
So I have an equal right to the forest as Abitibi Paper has got?
Yes.Comment
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