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Your Rections to the Third/Last Presidential Debate
Only heard a bit of it on the Radio (and you know that these debates dont come across well on radio, classic example Kennedy vs Nixon).
The one consisten thing seems to be that Bush is doing better in each successive Debate and you could argue over ties or narrow Bush victories. But I think we can ALL agree that he hasn't ever decicivly beaten Kerry in such a way as to undo the terrible damage he suffered in the First Debate.
I belive that first Debate actualy managed to move "Desided" Bush voters back into the "Undesided" camp which is realy saying a lot in this polarized atmosphere. If no unforseen events occure I think Kerry will end up with the lions share of the previously undesided voters who now lean toward from the first/second debate and have not been swayed by subsequent ones.
Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche
I think it a combination of Bush doing better each debate and the novelty of Kerry doing well wearing off. Like a french cheese with a funny after taste. At first novel and interesting , but after 4 1/2 hours of tasting it, you really feel the need to wretch.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
Except, are there any polls that have Bush winning?
My understanding is that there are a few polls that have the third debate as a tie (and those have a lot more republicans than democrats in them), and many polls with Kerry as winning the debate, especially among independent/swing voters.
-Drachasor
"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama
Originally posted by Drachasor
Except, are there any polls that have Bush winning?
My understanding is that there are a few polls that have the third debate as a tie (and those have a lot more republicans than democrats in them), and many polls with Kerry as winning the debate, especially among independent/swing voters.
-Drachasor
Zogby still has bush up.
The others are dead heat.
I still have faith that Lurch will blow it.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
1% is no statistical difference. Because of the potential error with the sample sizes anything within about 3% of that poll is essentially identical.
Anyhow, I was talking about the third debate; in that I think Kerry has won as far as influencing people (the same with all of the debates, in fact).
Oh, and that 7% undecided is a pretty nice boon for Kerry, since almost all of the time the Challenger gets the vast majority of the undecided voters.
-Drachasor
"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama
1% is no statistical difference. Because of the potential error with the sample sizes anything within about 3% of that poll is essentially identical.
Anyhow, I was talking about the third debate; in that I think Kerry has won as far as influencing people (the same with all of the debates, in fact).
Oh, and that 7% undecided is a pretty nice boon for Kerry, since almost all of the time the Challenger gets the vast majority of the undecided voters.
-Drachasor
Cepting the last few races that were reportedly close went decidedly repubs direction.
Take a look at the RealClearPolitics collection of polls for the governor's races. Then look at the results.
In Florida, Survey USA had Jeb Bush winning by 5. Gainesville Sun and Orlando Sentinel, Bush by 6. Mason-Dixon and Miami Herald, Bush by 8. Zogby's final poll had Jeb by 15, but only a few days earlier he had Bush winning by only 3. (A twelve point swing in a matter of days?)
Final result? Jeb Bush 56 percent, Bill McBride 43. A 13 point edge for the Republican.
In Iowa, the final polls had Tom Vilsack beating Doug Gross by 12 points or 14 points. Final ballot numbers? Vilsack 53, Gross 45. A solid 8 point margin, but again, underestimating Republican turnout.
Michigan? Jennifer Granholm led the final Survey USA poll by 6 points, the EPIC/MRA poll by 14 points, the Detroit News poll by 13, as well as the Detroit Free Press, and the next-to-last Survey USA poll. Final result? Granholm 51, Posthumus 48, a 3 point margin.
But wait, there's more! Let's look at the 2003 races. Blogger Timothy Goddard looked at that year's four governor's races and concluded:
In the end, Republicans took 3 of 4 races, and beat the polls in the three they won. Haley Barbour in Mississippi beat the closest polls by 3 points, and Ernie Fletcher beat them by anywhere from 9 points to 1 point. And, of course, we all remember Schwarzenegger’s “tight” race for governor.
The final L.A. Times poll showed Arnie with 40 percent, Cruz Bustamante with 32 percent. Final result? Hasta la vista, baby: Arnie 49 percent, Danny DeVito 32 percent.
Have the pollsters adjusted for the GOP's new emphasis on voter turnout? Why do I suspect they haven't?
Like I said Lurch's unlikeability factor will be his undoing barring any major catastrophe.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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