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  • Catholic Bishops: Voting for Kerry is a Sin requiring Confession

    Excerpts from a New York Times article:

    Group of Bishops Using Influence to Oppose Kerry

    For Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, the highest-ranking Roman Catholic prelate in Colorado, there is only one way for a faithful Catholic to vote in this presidential election, for President Bush and against Senator John Kerry.
    (...)
    He stopped short of telling them whom to vote for, but he reminded them of Mr. Kerry's support for abortion rights. And he pointed out the potential impact his re-election could have on Roe v. Wade. "Supreme Court cases can be overturned, right?" he asked.

    Archbishop Chaput, who has never explicitly endorsed a candidate, is part of a group of bishops intent on throwing the weight of the church into the elections.
    (...)
    Archbishop Chaput has discussed Catholic priorities in the election in 14 of his 28 columns in the free diocesan newspaper this year. His archdiocese has organized voter registration drives in more than 40 of the largest parishes in the state and sent voter guides to churches around the state. Many have committees to help turn out voters and are distributing applications for absentee ballots.
    (...)
    In an interview in his residence here, Archbishop Chaput said a vote for a candidate like Mr. Kerry who supports abortion rights or embryonic stem cell research would be a sin that must be confessed before receiving Communion.

    "If you vote this way, are you cooperating in evil?" he asked. "And if you know you are cooperating in evil, should you go to confession? The answer is yes."

    (...)
    But never before have so many bishops so explicitly warned Catholics so close to an election that to vote a certain way was to commit a sin.
    (...)
    The [Republican] party has recruited an undisclosed number of Catholic field coordinators who earn $2,500 a month, along with up to $500 a month for expenses to increase conservative Catholic turnout.
    (...)
    The Rev. Andrew Kemberling, pastor of St. Thomas More Church near here, said he agreed with the archbishop, but he acknowledged that parishioners sometimes accused him of telling them how to vote. He said his reply was: "We are not telling them how to vote. We are telling them how to take Communion in good conscience."


    He "stopped short of telling them whom to vote for", instead merely reminding them they would be cooperating in evil if they committed the sin of voting for Kerry.

    Lucky he stopped short!
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    Interesting, so voting for a candidate who would accept the termination of unborn life gets you two 'Our Fathers' and a 'Holy Mary'. What does voting for a candidate who goes to war on false pretences get you?
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    • #3
      If they believe that Kerry the politician's prospective policies would encourage abortion, and they believe that abortion is unethical, they are required by their teaching duties to speak up about it.

      Not speaking up about it, especially when a catholic politician is involved, makes it appear as though the church is neutral on this issue at best and supportive at worst. They believe that abortion is a big deal. A mortal sin.

      That said, the church has said its piece. The voters can take from it what they wish.
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      • #4
        CSPA

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        • #5
          How is this different than a group like "labor" supporting Kerry... The church has legitimate reasons why they would like to see Bush get reelected. I'm surprised they didn't go all the way and command catholics to vote for Bush.
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          • #6
            Here we whip our clergy into order for crossing the church-state line like that.
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            • #7
              He's the one that left himself open to this.
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              • #8
                Maybe the Bishop should start speaking out about the condition of his flock in the state, specially the devout hispanics, and the conditions they face in the agrobusiness as well.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dauphin
                  What does voting for a candidate who goes to war on false pretences get you?
                  Since it's against unbelievers, there's nothing wrong with the war. Crusades

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                  • #10
                    Yes, he should talk about the hispanics, and about ways to send them back to Mexico.

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                    • #11
                      The thread title is misleading: This is only one Bishop out in Colorado, not every Catholic Bishop.

                      While Chaput is at least making an effort to explain the importance of supporting pro-life Catholics, I don't think it's right that it's nessecarily a mortal sin to vote for Kerry, and he is the only Bishop to make such a claim. It would be a mortal sin to support Kerry BECAUSE he is pro-abortion, but not nessecarily if you voted for him in spite of his pro-abortion stance.

                      Interesting, so voting for a candidate who would accept the termination of unborn life gets you two 'Our Fathers' and a 'Holy Mary'. What does voting for a candidate who goes to war on false pretences get you?
                      In Catholic teaching, that's not the same issue. The Church teaches going to war may sometimes be acceptable under St. Augustine's "Just War" doctrine. Catholics get to decide if any particular case meets the criteria. The Church has offered the interpetation that Iraq War II did not fufill the criteria, but that is a view on the facts of the case, not a view on faith or morals, and so Catholics are allowed to disagree on that.

                      Abortion is a more fundamental matter. Abortion involves the direct intended killing of an innocent life and so therefore is never considered to be acceptable or allowable, and is always considered immoral.

                      So, with regard to the war- Bush may or may not have acted immoraly in taking us to war, depending on whether he felt the case had some certain criteria. It is absolutely wrong for Kerry to support Abortion. And, also, Abortion has killed many, many more people (about 42 mil), much more then the Iraq war has.
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                      • #12
                        Isn't a church's tax-exemption status dependent on their being politically neutral? If so, would this be a violation and could you start taxing some these churches in Colorado?
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                        • #13
                          What I can't understand is why the Catholic Church in America is so vocal in condemning Kerry's pro-abortion stance, yet seems to ignore the pro-death penalty attitudes of Bush and co. They're both murder after all - what's the difference?
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                          • #14
                            Isn't a church's tax-exemption status dependent on their being politically neutral?
                            No.
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                            • #15
                              Trying to understand inconsistancies in Catholic Doctrine and how it affects their world view is not for the weak of heart.

                              I have no problem with any organization expressing their opinion on the election. Unless it's teachers trying to get children to influence their parents.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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