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[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap
Actually, the Democrats want the government to have the same advantage WalMart gets by being the biggest buyer- ie, a mass discount-but for some reason the Republican congress was opposed to this...

Price controls are price controls. They have always resulted in shortages, rationing and poor quality.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by LordAzreal
You're kidding, right?

I'd hit it.

However, with just the face, it's not a 100% thing

There's a guy at my school who has a face pretty similar.

[Jaguar]

Ned isn't 0 for 2. I say he's 0-1-1 in debates now. He held his own against GePap there.

[Flip McWho]

Why of course, rationing and long waits is exactly what one gets when government is the sole provider. That there is a better way is lost on the socialists who crave power more than anything else.

Aye but it definitely saves having to fork out lots of cash to get private health care. State funded health care is for people who can't afford the luxury of private health care.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned


Price controls are price controls. They have always resulted in shortages, rationing and poor quality.

So WalMarts leads to rationing? That's news to me Neddy. Its called using your influence as the most important seller- funny how republicans think its fine for private companies to extert massive control over prices, but not the gov..either you think its fine, and should letr the government do it, or stop large corporations from doing it- you can't do both.
Life expectancy is longer in countries with state social care than in the US- why? Cayuse people are able to get basic preventive care far better than in the US.

[GePap]

Another simple fact- the private system will never coiver all people- it has a profit motive NOT to- many people are simply unprofitable.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap


So WalMarts leads to rationing? That's news to me Neddy. Its called using your influence as the most important seller- funny how republicans think its fine for private companies to extert massive control over prices, but not the gov..either you think its fine, and should letr the government do it, or stop large corporations from doing it- you can't do both.
Life expectancy is longer in countries with state social care than in the US- why? Cayuse people are able to get basic preventive care far better than in the US.

GePap, you must be studiously ignorant to compare WalMart to a state monopoly. One has nothing to do with price controls. Which one?

[Dinner]

I've heard that lots of Australian guys leave the country to find work thus leaving the country full of hot chicks. Maybe I need to move to Australia for a couple of years.

[Dinner]

Ned: Kerry hasn't put forward a plan of nationalized heath care; he's simply offered to expand medicare to everyone who's currently not covered. BTW I have never seen any politiciian advicate making the government the sole provider for health care. Even Clinton's proposed plan back in 1992 had all the facilities remaining privately owned but that the government would have an insurence company that would cover everyone who didn't opt out. If you had better private insurence then you simply opted out just like people currently opt out of medicare.

You shouldn't believe the horse pucky that Rush imbaugh puts out and instead you should read the proposals the candidates actuallly write. You will have a better understanding of the proposals.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
GePap, you must be studiously ignorant to compare WalMart to a state monopoly. One has nothing to do with price controls. Which one?

No, he's on to something. You have no problem with companies like Wal-Mart using it's market power to fix prices but you do have a problem with the government doing it. You can't have it both ways. Something doesn't magically become wrong just because the government does it.

[notyoueither]

Heh.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


No, he's on to something. You have no problem with companies like Wal-Mart using it's market power to fix prices but you do have a problem with the government doing it. You can't have it both ways. Something doesn't magically become wrong just because the government does it.

No, it's the market establishing the price, as opposed to some government functionary arbitrarily setting a "fair" price. Walmart is big, but it's not all-powerful, and it can't dictate the terms.

[Imran Siddiqui]

instead you should read the proposals the candidates actuallly write. You will have a better understanding of the proposals.

That would require Ned to be fair. Better to ask for Osama bin Laden to have a pork dinner served with wine .

And where is the government fixing prices in the process of buying drugs? It's just getting the big buyer discount, which I'm sure a lot of drug companies would be willing to compete over to have the government (or parts of it) as a client.

[Dracon II]

An awful disappointment. Let it be known that I did not vote for him or his cronies. He doesn't represent me. Just my country... who he will now proceed to **** up.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

instead you should read the proposals the candidates actuallly write. You will have a better understanding of the proposals.

That would require Ned to be fair. Better to ask for Osama bin Laden to have a pork dinner served with wine .

And where is the government fixing prices in the process of buying drugs? It's just getting the big buyer discount, which I'm sure a lot of drug companies would be willing to compete over to have the government (or parts of it) as a client.

That really depends on how old the patent is...right?