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  • #91
    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
    It's a catastrophe for you, maybe. Why the hell should we all be forced to stay "diverse" just to please your sense of aesthetics?
    US culture pretty well sucks. It's nice to be able to do something anything different.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #92
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara


      US culture pretty well sucks. It's nice to be able to do something anything different.
      What is stopping you?
      Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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      • #93
        Then there shouldn't be much of a worry of US culture choking out others if it sucks so much. Good to know you agree this is pointless French whining.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #94
          He's being choked by US values, Sprayber!
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #95
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara


            Coercion by Rushkoff.

            The marketing industry spends lots of money trying to figure out how people tick, in order to push just the right buttons to reduce the ability of people to make rational choices. It's all about psychological trickery.
            I suppose only American advertising firms do this.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #96
              The basic problem is that we've got too much global communications compared to the amount of cultural diversion we've got, so as long as no-one imposes some more isolation, homogenization is gonna proceed. While I'd like to do something about it just to spite brats like Kuci, there's really little point to try.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Sprayber


                I suppose only American advertising firms do this.
                We're just the best at it.

                USA! USA! USA!
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by alva

                  Hmm, I wonder if our American friends her will still have the same view on things, or if they will start spewing the same thing as Chirac.
                  If Bollywood takes over here it will be because we have been watching their movies en masse. In which case why would we piss and moan about the indians? Instead those who didn't like the bollywood influence will piss and moan about the lousy taste of their fellow movie goers.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by alva
                    People are simply saying they don't want to be carbon-copies of the US


                    Why not?

                    Not all of us are aspiring to become fat ignorant gun crazed money chasing religious nationalistic zealots, that's why.

                    diversity
                    Exactly! which is why I can immerse myself completely in US culture and yet remain a fit, gunless, agnostic nationalist zealot who made a concious career choice to do something interesting instead of something that would simply guarentee a fat paycheck.

                    US cultural products are most certainly not the roots of any of the problems you are afraid of (well except for possibly converting some of us into nationalist zealots and apparently that is working on the foreigners overseas as well! )

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                    • #100
                      The whole world would be speaking French now if Joan of Arc hadn't shown up. Blame her.

                      Anyway, culture is fundamentally different from genetics (as Starchild suggests) or technology (like Spiffor suggests). It's neither. It's culture.

                      Whe you lose culture, it's not like forgetting a potentially useful technology or losing a possibly handy gene. It's like forgetting what you had for breakfast.

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                        Coercion by Rushkoff.

                        The marketing industry spends lots of money trying to figure out how people tick, in order to push just the right buttons to reduce the ability of people to make rational choices. It's all about psychological trickery.
                        So what? Our pollytubbie trolls also spend a lot of time trying to figure out how posters tick in order to push just the right buttons to reduce the ability of people to make rational choices. That's all about psychological trickery as well. And yet no one would argue that we are coerced into responding to a troll.

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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                          US culture pretty well sucks. It's nice to be able to do something anything different.
                          yeah doesn't it just suck when other people have bad taste? too bad so sad. live with it.

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                          • #103
                            OMFG FRANCE SUCKS CHIRAC IS THA GAY COMMIE BASTARD@@@@#@#
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #104
                              Jesus Christ, you americans are way too sensitive.

                              If someone rags on Canadian culture, I'djust think you don't know what you're talking about.

                              The fact that so many Americans get upset tells me you have a massive inferiority complex. And then I think why? Is it because deep down inside you think American culture is nebulous and shallow?

                              Come on guys, have a bit of faith in yourself.
                              Golfing since 67

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by Tingkai
                                Jesus Christ, you americans are way too sensitive.

                                If someone rags on Canadian culture, I'djust think you don't know what you're talking about.

                                The fact that so many Americans get upset tells me you have a massive inferiority complex. And then I think why? Is it because deep down inside you think American culture is nebulous and shallow?

                                Come on guys, have a bit of faith in yourself.
                                You so greatly misunderstand my motives

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