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  • #46
    Originally posted by Dissident
    aggressive marketing? please. people wouldn't go see the movies if they weren't halfway decent.
    Quoted just to ensure that he can't edit it out later
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


      Quoted just to ensure that he can't edit it out later
      no intention of doing so. I stand by that remark.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Tingkai


        Look at your own country.

        The bible thumpers complain and try to put limits on godless Hollywood the evil left-wing media.

        The bleeding heart liberals complain and try to put limits on right-wing corporate America that dominates the airways.
        Nonesense! we don't let any of those people even try to isolate us from foreign cultural influence. Instead we let them censor 'naughty words' and 'naughty pictures' arising from foreign and domestic sources alike.

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        • #49
          Good to hear that Americans fully support schools where Spanish is the language of instruction, and that Americans gladly accept neighbourhood stores where business is conducted in languages other than English.
          Golfing since 67

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Tingkai
            Good to hear that Americans fully support schools where Spanish is the language of instruction, and that Americans gladly accept neighbourhood stores where business is conducted in languages other than English.
            You actually didn't know that is exactly the way the law works here? People here can ***** and piss and moan about those things all they like but the government doesn't step in and help them win their little war against foreign influences.

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            • #51
              People can conduct business here in whatever language they like -- whether that language is practical is another matter altogether.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Geronimo
                You actually didn't know that is exactly the way the law works here? People here can ***** and piss and moan about those things all they like but the government doesn't step in and help them win their little war against foreign influences.
                You're missing the point.


                People throughout the world believe that their own culture is worth protecting and they want their governments to protect that culture. This is perfectly natural.

                Are they rejecting all American influences? No, absolutely not. They simply do not want their own cultural industries destroyed by a flood of products created by financially powerful American corporations.

                The problem with many of the American posters here is that you take this as a personal attack. It is not. No one is saying American culture sucks, or American movies are crap. People are simply saying they don't want to be carbon-copies of the US, just as Republican traditionalists do not want to be like Democratic progressives.
                Golfing since 67

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                  People can conduct business here in whatever language they like -- whether that language is practical is another matter altogether.
                  For now. There is a push to make English an official language in the US.

                  The point I was making is that desire to protect one's culture is universal. It is not something that only the French do.
                  Golfing since 67

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                  • #54
                    it's like for the conservative countries, we're Sodom, Gomorrah, and the whore of babylon rolled into one


                    but we are, arent we?


                    Canadians have a censor dedicated to clamping down on American culture on TV.


                    No wonder they havent come to thier senses and joined us yet!


                    People are simply saying they don't want to be carbon-copies of the US


                    Why not?

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                    • #55
                      America is the only real culture there is. I don't care about history and traditions, values and ways of life of others. I mean, crap, just go anywhere outside US. NO ELEVATORS! NO AC IN MY BATHROOM! What's a guy gotta do to find some traditional food. What the hell do they even eat in here, I should find out.... ohh I'll check out the Wikipedia. Hmm. Interesting. Hmm. I actually don't give a ****. Hmm. Who would want to live in the clearly inferior cultures to ours? I mean, they listen OUR music, OUR movies they watch and eat hamburgers. Damn it, I figure we have saved them from eating rocks and watching them playing with each others peepees.

                      No. The fact is, some of yous can never understand the whole thing. While Chirac is banging drums that sounds like brown nosing to the guests, and nothing much else, still. Some of you can never understand it. And yet some of you call yourselves being part of diverse place, yet you have 0 knowledge .

                      Not all of you. But some I won't explain it even. You already believe in your own versions, because 'makes sense to me!' and it doesn't matter who tells you otherwise. So no one should get offended. Call it culturally handicapped.

                      This is about the only thing I definitely do not like in general when it comes to the citizens of the only superpower. It's arrogant. You say it isn't, and then defend it when someone says it is 'well you're just jealous/a whiny little *****' etc, makign the point even more clear how arrogant it is. It's not ignorance, it's arrogance, but some of you just don't realize it. No excuse. So if this hits to the back of your head 'Ohh Pekka is coming leftie PUNK'.. well.. that's a great way to cope with it, tough ****.
                      Last edited by Pekka; October 8, 2004, 06:50.
                      In da butt.
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                      • #56
                        ...more posturing for French imperialism. His actions are as transparent as those of the English speaking world
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by OzzyKP
                          Just wait till Bollywood takes over.
                          Hmm, I wonder if our American friends her will still have the same view on things, or if they will start spewing the same thing as Chirac.
                          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                          • #58
                            This, he said, would lead to a "general world sub-culture" based around the English language, which would be "a real ecological catastrophe".




                            ecological?

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                            • #59
                              All this stuff about "aggressive marketing" is just like complaints about "immigrants taking our jobs" - it's total BS. Just as no one jumps you in the street and say "hand over the job, now, or I'll knife you", no one is ever forced to watch American films, eat at American restaraunts. They do so because they want to. If it "drowns out" traditional culture, SO WHAT? If the people really want to preserve their culture, just don't watch American movies! But why the hell should you be allowed to prevent OTHERS from watching American movies if you want to?

                              It's like if people, despairing at the demise of, say, a certain genre of computer games, forced legislation restricting the production of other genres.

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                              • #60
                                No one is saying American culture sucks, or American movies are crap.


                                How long have you posted on these forums?

                                Or are you just talking about Chirac?
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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