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Town Hall "debates" are purely scripted events. All questions are submitted beforehand, the moderator choses which questions get asked, and there are no follow-ups. They're even more of a farce than the normal "debates."Originally posted by Ted Striker
Next debate is supposed to be a Town Hall type of debate.
This might be the opportunity for Kerry to shine because of the two, Bush is the more scripted kinda guy.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I think town hall benefits Bush- I think he is better at playing of to a crowd-plus there might be more room for body language and so forth. That being said, Kerry has shown he can at least not be robotic like Gore.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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They should get Drew Carey tohostmoderate it and they can do a whose line is it anyway style deal... that would be kewlComment
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Kerry wins the debate but not by enough to change most people's views on the who's better issue.
I'm not sure I'd say that. There's typically a lag time betwen when an event happens and when the poll numbers catch up to reflect it."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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The problem is, Ramo, there was no event. I don't think anything happened such that any thing will change.Comment
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Why do you say that?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Because that's how I feel. Kerry impressed me so much that he can speak in public with out putting his foot in his mouth.... and Bush did a good job at defending his case and brainwashing ppl to think Kerry is not CiC material. Besides that Kerry lacked substance and Bush lacked tact, nothing new IMO.Comment
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I agree . People forget what "comeback Kerry" is all about. He's pulled off miracles before, he can do it again.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Kerry won the debate but will lose the election (by a wide margin I think).
Naturally, I slightly disagree. I think Kerry won the debate, but he will WIN the election on the momentum of his debate wins (Yes, I think he'll win the next two as well).Comment
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They had a civilian nuke plant, which was allowed. After the war, we didn't secure it immediately and stuff from the plant started getting looted. It is theoretically possible terrorists made off with radioactive material to make a dirty bomb.Originally posted by The diplomat
Did anyone notice that twice kerry said that we failed to secure Iraq's nuclear facilities? What facilities was he talking about? I thought Iraq no longer had a nuclear program.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Because that's how I feel. Kerry impressed me so much that he can speak in public with out putting his foot in his mouth.... and Bush did a good job at defending his case and brainwashing ppl to think Kerry is not CiC material. Besides that Kerry lacked substance and Bush lacked tact, nothing new IMO.
The Gallup poll shows lots of changed minds about Kerry. As I said, this debate was more successful for Kerry than any of the '92 debates were for Clinton or 2000 debates for Bush.
And are you saying that Bush had substance?
He repeated the same talking points over and over again.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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There's typically a lag time betwen when an event happens and when the poll numbers catch up to reflect it.I can tell you're a democratThe Gallup poll shows lots of changed minds about Kerry
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In terms of the horse race (though on specific issues, that's less the case), Japher. The internals move pretty quickly."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I only watched a little bit, early on. I was impressed with neither candidate. Bush just repeated talking points over and over. His parts were ill-fitted sound bites stuck together. This will be good for him in the long run because most people don't watch the actual debates, but will only see clips of sound bites later on.
Kerry's was bobbing his head too much and smiling at inapporpriate times, so that it seemed like he was agreeing with the Prez when the Prez was criticizing him. Kerry missed the mark a few times when Bush said something stupid.
One big problem for Bush, though, was that he was expected to win the debate beforehand according to news polls. Bush's style is to have lowered expectations,and then rise above them. If folks only think you can deliver 30% and you bring 45%, you do a lot better than expected, and the difference is what impresses folks.
Not that the debates are anything more than a soulless husk of what they once were.
I wish the news organizations would get together and decide to host the debates and refuse to televize the Federal Comminsion on President Debates farces.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Bush is commander in chief and its on his watch so YES he is to blame when his generals screw up.It is more of a cheap shot because the attack was not on Bush himself but on his commanding General Franks.Comment
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