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  • pwned
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • Originally posted by Sava
      hahah Verto you are mad because Kerry has a vision of peace for the entire world? When NOBODY has nuclear weapons?
      A nice vision, but full of delusion. And no, I'm not mad because he has that vision.

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      • Amazing! People's views on the debate closely mirror their own personal bias! I never would've predicted it.
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        • I still don't think there was a clear winner.

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          • drake
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • Shields thought Kerry won, Brooks thought it was a tie. Average the two, and you get a smaller Kerry win.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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              • Drake, Unfortunately not mine. I posted my grade early on and I think Bush tanked this one. Kerry weasled well IMO.
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • I don't think there was a CLEAR winner either, I mean a landslide victory to neither one.

                  I say we need to settle this by the way of.. nude wrestling.
                  In da butt.
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                  • BTW, anyone know if there's a way I can watch the debate online in a few hours? I doubt NHK is going to re-broadcast it...
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                    • Originally posted by Sava
                      hahah Verto you are mad because Kerry has a vision of peace for the entire world? When NOBODY has nuclear weapons?
                      The problem is that while we disarm, a rogue state like NK won't. We made a deal with NK under Clinton that they broke and built nukes anyway. So under Kerry, the US will cease building bunker buster nukes so we won't have them to defend ourselves but NK will continue to build nukes so they will have. We get weaker while NK gets stronger. It's not a good policy.
                      'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                      G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                      • I think a coin toss for first turn at roshambo.
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                        • I thought Bush did a good job. Stayed on message. You could tell that Kerry was itching to begin a two hour long senate speech.
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                          • Originally posted by Verto
                            I still don't think there was a clear winner.
                            No, Bush was pwnd. He ran out of things to say, god knows how many times he used the "If you disagree with me, your demoralising the troops" argument too many times for too many subjects. Bushs "arguments" were mainly "I'm right" or "My opponent agreed with me before" without actually defending his argument.

                            Of course, this is all going to backfire...Americans will think that Bushs ignorance is "cute" or "down to Earth" or whatever.
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                            • no idea... Bush Roks!

                              I score it even, maybe with Bush up as it was clear what he to get across; Kerry is a flakey dork... Where as Kerry's; Bush messed up,.... is old and over played.

                              We'll see how the media and the public handels this.
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • I give this one to Kerry easily.
                                What?

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