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  • #181
    I thought Kerry began well, faded a little bit in the middle, and finished very strongly. By criteria that usually decide debates, Kerry won. But the media will probably change that.

    I hope people spotted that Bush deliberately misquoted Kerry a couple of times (things Kerry said in the debate).
    Only feebs vote.

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    • #182
      Kerry is our next president.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #183
        I thought Kerry began well, faded a little bit in the middle, and finished very strongly.


        Yep.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #184
          i thought kerry got w0rk3d. flippin' and floppin'.
          "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

          "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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          • #185
            Kerry: I fought in Vietnam. If Iran can't have nukes, neither can we.

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            • #186
              Originally posted by Pekka
              And this is where a person who understand nuances of english language and basic communication KNOWS Kerry IS NOT insulting the allies. Ask the allies, are they insulted? GO ahead, ask'em. They're not insulted. That's not insulting. That's A FACT. The coalition can be stronger. To say, that's an insult to the allied effort.. how is that?
              Kerry called some of our allies "bribed" and "coerced". That is insulting.
              'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
              G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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              • #187
                Verto, if Bush wins, I don't admit that as the reason. I say the reason Bush would win is because he took the center of the ring at first. He will do that in the future as well. I say if he wins, that's the reason.
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                • #188
                  i think kerry was definately wrong about the n korea thing too...
                  "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                  "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                  • #189
                    hahah Verto you are mad because Kerry has a vision of peace for the entire world? When NOBODY has nuclear weapons?
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #190
                      Originally posted by Kaak
                      i thought kerry got w0rk3d. flippin' and floppin'.
                      He didn't. At the end when he pointed out that Bush is avoiding the issue he was very clear.

                      He voted for force, but expected it to be used as a last resort and with a proper coalition. It wasn't so he thinks the war was a mistake.
                      Only feebs vote.

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                      • #191
                        the diplomat, duh, some of them were. That's not even the point, the point is, who fo the allied is insulted? I have never heard any allied expressing disgust for this. They're not insulted, not because I say so, but because the allies says so.
                        In da butt.
                        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                        • #192
                          Originally posted by The diplomat


                          Kerry called some of our allies "bribed" and "coerced". That is insulting.
                          Some of them WERE... like BULGARIA!!! Come on now!!!
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #193
                            Hell, Blair wants Kerry to win.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #194
                              I'm sorry, but this was major pwnage.
                              Kerry had facts and confidence and such. Bush keps stalling and repeating the same arguments over and over and over again, wasn't able to defend himself at all.
                              I really expected Bush to come out on top...Kerry definitely won this one.
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                              • #195
                                Bush could have done better in countering Kerry's arguments. Kerry made a lot of false statements about Bush that should have been dismissed but were allowed to slide. Also Bush should have illustrated Kerry's flip flops not just claimed it.
                                'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                                G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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