Kerry attacks Allawi, calls him a liar and Bush stooge

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

My checks in the mail. By the by, Bubba says he needs his fix.

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I don't think anyone but you gives a rat's ass about Allawi.

Why of course, Che. The best hope for democracy in Iraq and an early exist from this war is someone the Democrats (what a misnomer) have to trash, undermine and publicly humiliate for the consumption of the Arab world and to the dismay of the average Iraqi who hopes for a better future for himself and his family?

[Ned]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Yes, after all, we need Allawi. Without him, we are nothing.

Since when have you become a fool?

[Ned]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Capturing bin Laden would really take some of the wind out of the sails of the whole perpetual war as an excuse to remold US civil liberties and the world at large, now wouldn't it?

And I've seen emails circulating among Republicans about how there are supposed new Iraqi aircraft with all sorts of post-sanctions French and Russian avionics, as well as real WMD stockpiles which had been captured in Iraq, but classified until now so that the evil liberal media elite can't tell the real story, blah blah blah.

There's a lot of fiction on both sides of the fence, because the fiction is less alarming than the reality of spectacular incompetence by the Bushies.

But, it appears, that the leaders of the Democrat party are have a very hard time distinquishing between reality and fantasy. Are they all borderline schizophrenics?

[Sava]

We should merge this thread and the CIA rigging elections thread. It makes Kerry look even better and right on about Allawi.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned


Why of course, Che. The best hope for democracy in Iraq and an early exist from this war is someone the Democracy (what a misnomer) have to trash, undermine and publicly humiliate for the consumption of the Arab world and to the dismay of the average Iraqi who hopes for a better future for himself and his family?

How the hell is an ex-hitman for the dictator "the best hope for democracy"? If that is true Iraq has serious problems. Allawi has the job for a variety of reasons- a stellar democartic past or strong democratic leanings are not two of those reasons.

[Ned]

GePap, Kerry and his campaign have been hammering Allawi publicly big time, while privately sending a Senator to reasure him. Now, why would they do this? Politics?

But the problem is that attacking Allawi undermines our effort in Iraq big time where it counts, in Iraq.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned
But the problem is that attacking Allawi undermines our effort in Iraq big time where it counts, in Iraq.

How, exactly?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
GePap, Kerry and his campaign have been hammering Allawi publicly big time, while privately sending a Senator to reasure him. Now, why would they do this? Politics?

DUH

You win a cookie!

But the problem is that attacking Allawi undermines our effort in Iraq big time where it counts, in Iraq.

So you prefer the Iraqi PM campain for Bush while trumping Bushs insane view of Iraq as being good for the Iraqis? Maybe this idea has never gotten to you, but supporting a bad policy is wrong- "staying the course" is fine, unless its heading right for a black hole-and then you would be an utter idiot to "stay the course". Bush opf course would rather get sucked into nothingness than admit he was utterly wrong. Personally I doubt Iraqis want that fate.

[Ned]

Kerry allegedly supports democracy in Iraq even while he attacks it. Please explain if you can.

[Ramo]

A former Mukhabarat hitman that was appointed as PM isn't the same thing as "democracy in Iraq."

[Ned]

Ah, so, an anti-Saddam Iraqi patriot is not your cup of tea. Who do you, or for that matter, Kerry propose as an alternative?

[Ramo]

I propose democracy; it isn't my choice, it's theirs.

BTW, I didn't realize that you were a fan of Moqtada al-Sadr (as much of an "anti-Saddam Iraqi patriot" as the Mukhabarat hitman that you're spooging over), Ned.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
Kerry allegedly supports democracy in Iraq even while he attacks it. Please explain if you can.

There have been no elections in Iraq yet- there is no democracy in Iraq yet-this is a temporary transitional government appointed by commission getting the country ready for elections to come whichy will chose the first democratic government.

At least get your facts straight.

[Ramo]

Actually, there have been municipal elections in a few cities very early on in the occupation. Then Bremer shut them down because he was afraid of the results.