Ann Coulter Speaks -- on Rather, Cronkite and Vietnam

[Arrian]

@ thread.

-Arrian

[Ben Kenobi]

Are you saying that your right to persecute homosexuals is equal to MrFun's right to be homosexual?

No. I'm talking more about abortion here. If Mr. Fun is prochoice can't I be justified in accusing him of being against equality and liberty?

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Can you show me one difference between the platform of the communists and the platform of the Democrats? The two are remarkably similar.

You can't possibly be serious. I take it you've never actually looked at the CPUSA's platform.

[MalevolentLight]

When i refer to communists I refer to the hardcores like Agathon. But yes the Democratic party doesn't have much in the way of differences. Their members even go and meet with communist leaders.

I also find it interesting how you refer to the religious right (I happen to be an atheist) trying to take away freedoms when in actuality it is the left doing this. Who runs around with attorneys telling people how they can act? The ACLU supports groups like NAMBLA and then turns on the boyscouts and tries to dismantle them. The ACLU is all for flying a crescent in public, but don't you dare put a cross out there. Who's the one trying to impose their views on people? I would take the religious bible thumping right any day over the little boy loving left.

[Ben Kenobi]

You can't possibly be serious. I take it you've never actually looked at the CPUSA's platform.

I am serious.

There are many similarities between the Democratic platform and the Communists.

Show me where they disagree and how they disagree.

[Kropotkin]

Agathon, hardcore? You do not have a clue!

[St Leo]

Re: Ann Coulter Speaks -- on Rather, Cronkite and Vietnam

Originally posted by Ned
"The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth show the role of the individual in history. It wasn't Republican strategists who finished Kerry off two months before the election; it was the American people.

Mass movements over individualism? WTF? Is it just me, or have Republicans been turning into Marxists ever since Ronald "Member of the Communist Party" Reagan got elected?

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


I am serious.

There are many similarities between the Democratic platform and the Communists.

Show me where they disagree and how they disagree.

Your comment is so rediculous on the face of it, I can't believe I'm even responding - but what the hell.

First, to cut you off at the pass, I know you'll try to drag up similarities. Before you do that, take a look at the Republican platform and see if you can't find some similarities between it and the CPUSA platform. I guarantee there are quite a few.

So, here's some choice bits from the CPUSA platform I don't think you'll find the Democrats agreeing on:

- stop procurement and testing of nuclear weapons
- ratify the Kyoto treaty
- repeal NAFTA
- remove military recruiters from public schools and campuses
- public financing of elections
- replace the “winner take all” election system with Instant Runoff Voting and Proportional Representation which allow voters to rank candidates by choice and elect the candidate with the most overall support
- end monopoly control of the media
- restore tax rates on the rich and corporations to 1970 levels
- abolish the death penalty
- extending unemployment benefits time
- guarantee full dedicated federal funding for quality, equal public education from pre-K through college.
- enact the DREAM Act and Student Adjustment Act to increase access to education for immigrants.
- increase Pell Grants. Repeal provisions that deny funds to students with drug convictions.


And that's just a start. I can pull out more if you want.

[GePap]

If stupid were a disease, Ann Coulter would have died decades ago.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

kontiki, you're not supposed to use facts. these are republicans we are talking about.

[Dis]

I agree with her. She's a brilliant woman.



someone stop me. there must be some cure for trolling.

but seriously, she does have good points. I'm not too familiar with Cronkite- he was before my time. But it's hard to believe he said that thing. Though Ronald Reagon saying that was out of line. My respect for him has dropped.

[MalevolentLight]

- stop procurement and testing of nuclear weapons
- ratify the Kyoto treaty
- repeal NAFTA
- remove military recruiters from public schools and campuses
- public financing of elections
- replace the “winner take all” election system with Instant Runoff Voting and Proportional Representation which allow voters to rank candidates by choice and elect the candidate with the most overall support
- end monopoly control of the media
- restore tax rates on the rich and corporations to 1970 levels
- abolish the death penalty
- extending unemployment benefits time
- guarantee full dedicated federal funding for quality, equal public education from pre-K through college.
- enact the DREAM Act and Student Adjustment Act to increase access to education for immigrants.
- increase Pell Grants. Repeal provisions that deny funds to students with drug convictions.

You're joking right? Democrats agree with everything on there except for maybe the monopoly on media control (Why give up what they basically own?) and the repeal of NAFTA (although there are some that want that). Otherwise everything on there is pretty much standard operating procedure for the Democratic party.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight


You're joking right? Democrats agree with everything on there except for maybe the monopoly on media control (Why give up what they basically own?) and the repeal of NAFTA (although there are some that want that). Otherwise everything on there is pretty much standard operating procedure for the Democratic party.

Then you'll no doubt have an easy time quoting the relevant parts of the Democratic platform that confirms that. In case you have trouble understanding, that's the issue at hand.

[MalevolentLight]

What exactly is the democratic platform at this point? Basically everything on that list has been pushed for in the last 10 years. The democratic party platform basically changes based on popular demand. The best way to determine the democratic party platform is based on the way the democrats vote and what they have said.

[Ben Kenobi]

- stop procurement and testing of nuclear weapons

Yup, I see the Democrats doing that.

- ratify the Kyoto treaty

Same here.

- repeal NAFTA

Same here.

- remove military recruiters from public schools and campuses

Same here.

- public financing of elections

Okay. This is a difference, however elections are already partially public financed, so it really isn't a difference.

Are they saying that the only dollars that should be spent during an election should come from the public purse?

- replace the “winner take all” election system with Instant Runoff Voting and Proportional Representation which allow voters to rank candidates by choice and elect the candidate with the most overall support

Another difference.

- end monopoly control of the media

ML's point.

- restore tax rates on the rich and corporations to 1970 levels

Democrats favour this.

- abolish the death penalty

Same here.

- extending unemployment benefits time

Same here.

- guarantee full dedicated federal funding for quality, equal public education from pre-K through college.

Same here.

- enact the DREAM Act and Student Adjustment Act to increase access to education for immigrants.

This is a difference. Aren't the Democrats trying to increase restrictions and controls on immigration?

- increase Pell Grants. Repeal provisions that deny funds to students with drug convictions.

I don't see the democrats opposing this.