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  • I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I have two comments:

    1) Saddam was funding the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaida through the oil-for-food program. A detailed breakdown on how this was done was reported Sunday by FOXNews.

    2) Kerry's Iraq "plan" is virtually identical to what Bush is and has been doing. So much for Kerry's demand for a "change" in course.

    3) Kerry has no idea on how to defeat terrorism. Bush does. Kerry will use America's power -- without much more. Bush will bring democracy and hope to the Muslim world.
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • 3) Kerry has no idea on how to defeat terrorism. Bush does. Kerry will use America's power -- without much more. Bush will bring democracy and hope to the Muslim world.

      he's doing a bang-up job of that, isn't he?
      B♭3

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      • Q Cubed, what is the old saying about making an omlette?
        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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        • Originally posted by Kontiki
          Maybe because he didn't break it in the first place?
          He did vote for the war in Iraq so using your line of reasoning, he gave Bush permission to "break" Iraq. So he is partly to blame.
          'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
          G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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          • You can't make an omlette without ending up with some 20000 dead Iraqi's?

            Now, Saddam Hussein is captured. Now what? USA tries to forcefeed 'democracy and hope' to the Iraqi people? The last year indicates, that they aren't doing very good job, so there must be something wrong. But what? Maybe they don't want democracy - at least the kind of democracy USA is offering them.

            And what's this talk about "western world versus muslim world"? That does not compute: west is a word for direction, and muslim is a word for religious 'alignment'. The correct term should be 'christian world vs muslim world' (and perhaps the word world after the christians should be replaced with USA-and-it's-allies-minus-some-muslim-countries').

            @Ned:
            You mentioned the oil-for-food program & Iraq - Al-Qaeda connections in FoxNews. I think that's pretty far-fetched from Fox trying to link them together. USA&Iraq and USA&Al-Qaeda has considerable common history. There would be a much better link between Iraq and Al-Qaeda if you just put USA in between them.
            I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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            • Q Cubed, what is the old saying about making an omlette?

              Saddam's one mighty rotten egg, wouldn't you say? He's b0rked, but the Bush's omlette isn't palatable, is it?
              B♭3

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              • BUSH HAS NEW AD FEATURING KERRY WINDSURFING [09/22 10:54 AM]

                Boy, Kerry's windsurfing must poll terribly.

                The Bush campaign is rolling out a new ad, featuring Kerry windsurfing, with the image of him surfing, changing from left to right and back and forth, as an announcer points out his rapidly-changing positions for and against the same bill or issue.

                The closing line: "John Kerry: Whichever way the wind blows."

                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • saddam was NOT funding al qaeda. any other truths from fox news?

                  Well that statement right there just proves European intellectual superiority.
                  actually, it proves that bush has lost all credibility on the international level. he wont be able to build global consensus and alliances with people who dont trust him. and since the war on terror is a global one, he wont be able to advance against al qaeda.

                  plus, im an american. hahahah.
                  "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                  • plus, im an american. hahahah.

                    according to ML, all of us who don't support bush can't be real americans.
                    B♭3

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                    • Tuesday, September 21, 2004

                      Swift Votes for Kerry

                      Recently, dear reader, we here at “The Hatemonger’s Quarterly” got a ‘phone call from John Kerry for President Headquarters. It seems as if our humble “weblog” has grown in popularity in such leaps and bounds that it caught the eye of the Democratic contender for the President of the United States of America. (Hard to believe, isn’t it? Well, that’s the premise of today’s post, so you might as well start “suspending disbelief” now, or you aren’t going to enjoy what follows. Spoilsport.)

                      A member of Kerry’s campaign staff informed us that we could help assure John Kerry’s victory in November. To be honest, we, the crack young staff of “The Hatemonger’s Quarterly,” weren’t that enthusiastic about this prospect. We have a tough time rallying behind a candidate who makes Al Gore seem like Jim Carey. As such, this Kerry staffer decided to sweeten the deal: He offered us a fairly sizeable sum in order to help strategize for the Democrats’ campaign.

                      Although we, the crack young staff of “The Hatemonger’s Quarterly,” are already pulling in the big bucks (without any “Whammies”) from our new “blogspot.com” advertisements, we figured that a little extra cash wouldn’t hurt. Accordingly, we informed this humble Kerry staff member—let’s just call him “George Soros”—that we would be pleased as punch to help out. We, the crack young staff, were reporting for duty. Or something.

                      Immediately after agreeing to hop on board the Kerry Broken Rickshaw to Victory, we got our first assignment: Come up with a new way to ensure that undecided voters go to the polls and plump for Mr. Kerry.

                      Frankly, it seemed a rather daunting task. We figured that by this time in the campaign Mr. Kerry’s team would have come up with his own campaign to woo undecideds. After all, Mr. Kerry has voted both for and against pretty much every important piece of legislation of the last 19 years; surely the Kerry Camp can find some way to spin this?

                      Apparently not. As such, dear reader, we, the crack young staff of “The Hatemonger’s Quarterly,” had to think long and hard about a strategy for Mr. Kerry.

                      After much frettin’ and a-fussin’, we think we landed on just the thing.

                      “The Hatemonger’s Quarterly” Official Strategy for John Kerry: “With Your Help, I Can Be President of the United States—Just Tell Me What To Say!”

                      Our entreaty to the public takes the shape of a 60-second television spot featuring Mr. John Kerry himself. After offering a few photographs showing the candidate kissing hands and shaking babies, the ad gets down to brass tacks: Mr. Kerry, clad in a blue button-down shirt and a gray pair of slacks, sits atop John Edwards and delivers a direct appeal to the viewing audience:

                      My name is John Kerry, and I am running for the President of the United States of America. With your help, we can beat George W. Bush and his fellow draft-dodging chicken hawks—like Colin Powell.

                      This President has been reckless in his deployment of American troops. If I were Commander-in-Chief, I may or may not have liberated Iraq. I’m still ironing that out with a focus group. But I can promise to you that I would have second- and third-guessed myself at least fifty times by now.

                      Unlike George W. Bush, when I make a decision, I either stand behind it or I do not. Sometimes I do both.

                      And this gets me to the heart of my message: I really, really want to be President, but I have no idea how to get you to vote for me. So, just tell me what to say, and I’ll say it.

                      I don’t mean to sound desperate, but my campaign is starting to get that musty Michael Dukakis smell. And I’ve always wanted to be President. I swear. Honest to God. I figured I was pretty much bred and born for the job.

                      In fact, if it helps at all, the following people strongly support my candidacy: Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Yasir Arafat, and the Mad Mullahs of Iran. Jimmy Carter says those are some pretty nice folks. One of them even won the Nobel Piece of Israel Prize.

                      So, America, I urge you to tell me what to say. I’ll say it, I promise you.

                      We’re the crack young staff of “The Hatemonger’s Quarterly,” and we approve of this message.


                      Good stuff!
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • Originally posted by The diplomat


                        He did vote for the war in Iraq so using your line of reasoning, he gave Bush permission to "break" Iraq. So he is partly to blame.
                        So his vote to authorize the use of force came along with a rider as to how the whole operation would be run?
                        "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                        "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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                        • it's not that funny.

                          this is funny:

                          "You see the pictures in the paper today of John Kerry windsurfing? He's at his home in Nantucket this week, doing his favorite thing, windsurfing. Even his hobby depends on which way the wind blows." —Jay Leno

                          "Have you folks been following the controversy with John Kerry and his service in Vietnam and the Swift Boat campaign? It all took place in Vietnam and now it just won't go away. I was thinking about this — if John Kerry had just ducked the war like everybody else he wouldn't have this trouble." —David Letterman

                          "The latest issue of GQ magazine, John Kerry talks about what a man should look for in a woman. GQ? If John Kerry is going to talk about what he likes in a woman, shouldn't it be in Fortune or Money magazine?" --Jay Leno

                          "Vice President Dick Cheney attacked John Kerry. He said that John Kerry 'lacks deeply held convictions.' Today Kerry shot back, he said, 'That's not completely true.'" —Jay Leno

                          "There was an embarrassing moment at a recent Democratic fundraiser. When John Kerry was handed a $10 million dollar check, he said, 'I do.'" —Craig Kilborn

                          "John Kerry suspended his campaign for five days this week in honor of President Reagan. And right now, he's ahead in the polls. How's that make him feel? Disappears for a week and he's up in the polls. What else can he do now but go into hiding." —Jay Leno

                          "John Kerry met with Ralph Nader last week. Both sides of every issue were discussed. And then, Nader spoke." —Jay Leno

                          "The prisoner scandal is yet another election year problem for President Bush. And, with the economy still struggling, combat operations in Iraq dragging on, and the 9-11 hearings revealing damning information, even an opponent of limited political skill should be able to capitalize on those problems. The Democrats, however, chose to nominate John Kerry." —Jon Stewart

                          "Insiders have begun voicing serious concerns about how he's conducting his campaign. One aide told the New York Times that while Bush's message of 'steady leadership' has remained consistent, Kerry has gone through six different messages in the 18 months he's been running, including, at one particularly desperate juncture, 'Kerry: Health care jobs for the troops' environment.'" —Jon Stewart

                          "John Kerry's wife Teresa Heinz is on the cover of Newsweek magazine this week and they said that if he is elected president, she will be the oldest first lady in American history. But that doesn't bother John Kerry, he said, 'To me, she looks like a million bucks'" —Jay Leno
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                          • Q^3

                            The windsurfing one will be a real ad. Thats what makes it funny.
                            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              You mean the same weapons systems our military would be using if Cheney's recommendations while he was SefDef had carried as well? Obviously Cheney agreed with Kerry's votes back then. Why is it different now? The B-52 is antiquated, why shouldn't we modernize?


                              Because the B-52 is a perfectly good aircraft and works.

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                              • Every conservative's favorite Chia pet summed it up beauitfully the other day....

                                paraphrase was that you should vote for bush because 47% of Americans trusted him to "do the right thing" vs 45% for Kerry.

                                2% difference in a poll with a 3% margin for error = "bush is the lesser of the two evils"

                                And this is the best the conservative maven can come up with!

                                That says a LOT for the abilities (or complete lack thereof) of either mainline candidate.

                                Both of these guys suck.

                                To argue about which one sucks more seems....rather a waste of effort, non?

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