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    Enjoy you reading.

    The Washington neocons' commitment to the war on terror evaporates in Chechnya, whose cause they have made their own

    John Laughland
    Wednesday September 8, 2004
    The Guardian

    An enormous head of steam has built up behind the view that President Putin is somehow the main culprit in the grisly events in North Ossetia. Soundbites and headlines such as "Grief turns to anger", "Harsh words for government", and "Criticism mounting against Putin" have abounded, while TV and radio correspondents in Beslan have been pressed on air to say that the people there blame Moscow as much as the terrorists. There have been numerous editorials encouraging us to understand - to quote the Sunday Times - the "underlying causes" of Chechen terrorism (usually Russian authoritarianism), while the widespread use of the word "rebels" to describe people who shoot children shows a surprising indulgence in the face of extreme brutality.

    On closer inspection, it turns out that this so-called "mounting criticism" is in fact being driven by a specific group in the Russian political spectrum - and by its American supporters. The leading Russian critics of Putin's handling of the Beslan crisis are the pro-US politicians Boris Nemtsov and Vladimir Ryzhkov - men associated with the extreme neoliberal market reforms which so devastated the Russian economy under the west's beloved Boris Yeltsin - and the Carnegie Endowment's Moscow Centre. Funded by its New York head office, this influential thinktank - which operates in tandem with the military-political Rand Corporation, for instance in producing policy papers on Russia's role in helping the US restructure the "Greater Middle East" - has been quoted repeatedly in recent days blaming Putin for the Chechen atrocities. The centre has also been assiduous over recent months in arguing against Moscow's claims that there is a link between the Chechens and al-Qaida.
    These people peddle essentially the same line as that expressed by Chechen leaders themselves, such as Ahmed Zakaev, the London exile who wrote in these pages yesterday. Other prominent figures who use the Chechen rebellion as a stick with which to beat Putin include Boris Berezovsky, the Russian oligarch who, like Zakaev, was granted political asylum in this country, although the Russian authorities want him on numerous charges. Moscow has often accused Berezovsky of funding Chechen rebels in the past.

    By the same token, the BBC and other media sources are putting it about that Russian TV played down the Beslan crisis, while only western channels reported live, the implication being that Putin's Russia remains a highly controlled police state. But this view of the Russian media is precisely the opposite of the impression I gained while watching both CNN and Russian TV over the past week: the Russian channels had far better information and images from Beslan than their western competitors. This harshness towards Putin is perhaps explained by the fact that, in the US, the leading group which pleads the Chechen cause is the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). The list of the self-styled "distinguished Americans" who are its members is a rollcall of the most prominent neoconservatives who so enthusastically support the "war on terror".

    They include Richard Perle, the notorious Pentagon adviser; Elliott Abrams of Iran-Contra fame; Kenneth Adelman, the former US ambassador to the UN who egged on the invasion of Iraq by predicting it would be "a cakewalk"; Midge Decter, biographer of Donald Rumsfeld and a director of the rightwing Heritage Foundation; Frank Gaffney of the militarist Centre for Security Policy; Bruce Jackson, former US military intelligence officer and one-time vice-president of Lockheed Martin, now president of the US Committee on Nato; Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, a former admirer of Italian fascism and now a leading proponent of regime change in Iran; and R James Woolsey, the former CIA director who is one of the leading cheerleaders behind George Bush's plans to re-model the Muslim world along pro-US lines.

    The ACPC heavily promotes the idea that the Chechen rebellion shows the undemocratic nature of Putin's Russia, and cultivates support for the Chechen cause by emphasising the seriousness of human rights violations in the tiny Caucasian republic. It compares the Chechen crisis to those other fashionable "Muslim" causes, Bosnia and Kosovo - implying that only international intervention in the Caucasus can stabilise the situation there. In August, the ACPC welcomed the award of political asylum in the US, and a US-government funded grant, to Ilyas Akhmadov, foreign minister in the opposition Chechen government, and a man Moscow describes as a terrorist. Coming from both political parties, the ACPC members represent the backbone of the US foreign policy establishment, and their views are indeed those of the US administration.

    Although the White House issued a condemnation of the Beslan hostage-takers, its official view remains that the Chechen conflict must be solved politically. According to ACPC member Charles Fairbanks of Johns Hopkins University, US pressure will now increase on Moscow to achieve a political, rather than military, solution - in other words to negotiate with terrorists, a policy the US resolutely rejects elsewhere.

    Allegations are even being made in Russia that the west itself is somehow behind the Chechen rebellion, and that the purpose of such support is to weaken Russia, and to drive her out of the Caucasus. The fact that the Chechens are believed to use as a base the Pankisi gorge in neighbouring Georgia - a country which aspires to join Nato, has an extremely pro-American government, and where the US already has a significant military presence - only encourages such speculation. Putin himself even seemed to lend credence to the idea in his interview with foreign journalists on Monday.

    Proof of any such western involvement would be difficult to obtain, but is it any wonder Russians are asking themselves such questions when the same people in Washington who demand the deployment of overwhelming military force against the US's so-called terrorist enemies also insist that Russia capitulate to hers?

    · John Laughland is a trustee of the British Helsinki Human Rights Group www.oscewatch.org
    And it's from the guardian, of course.
    John Laughland: The Washington neocons' commitment to the war on terror evaporates in Chechnya, whose cause they have made their own.



    What really kills me is that your "free", "advanced", "ubiased" media, NEVER calls persons who took and kill hostages- terrorists, if those persons act in Russia.
    American and European media calls them- rebels, guman, militants, guerrillas, even fighters sometimes, it calls them anyhow but NEVER calls them TERRORISTS.
    Not that I'm really surprised, considering that CNN invites one of those f*ckers (who personally cut throats in Dagestan in 1999, but now wears an expensive suit and lives in UK) into their studio and broadcast his sh!t on whole world.

    **** your so-called "freedom of speech".


  • #2
    They are definitely terrorists. And I support any action Putin takes. It seems these attacks have only rallied support for Putin.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #3
      Wrong Serb, our media has consistantly called them terrorists, not hostage takers, rebels etc. They've been terrorists (the school kidnappers, the theater people) and labeled so very carefully. Make no mistake.
      In da butt.
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      • #4
        Re: The Chechens' American friends

        Originally posted by Serb
        Enjoy you reading.



        And it's from the guardian, of course.
        John Laughland: The Washington neocons' commitment to the war on terror evaporates in Chechnya, whose cause they have made their own.



        What really kills me is that your "free", "advanced", "ubiased" media, NEVER calls persons who took and kill hostages- terrorists, if those persons act in Russia.
        American and European media calls them- rebels, guman, militants, guerrillas, even fighters sometimes, it calls them anyhow but NEVER calls them TERRORISTS.
        Not that I'm really surprised, considering that CNN invites one of those f*ckers (who personally cut throats in Dagestan in 1999, but now wears an expensive suit and lives in UK) into their studio and broadcast his sh!t on whole world.

        **** your so-called "freedom of speech".

        You're right serb. The American media is very choosy about the words they use. They don't think it means you are biased just becuase you choose your words like this.
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        • #5
          we don't care about yall Russians. yall are still Red baddies
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          • #6
            But I'd like to continue, that I support free media, they can say what they want, hopefully they have integrity and follow the rules of journalism and are unbiased, I'd say **** government control media
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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            • #7
              However, I am forced to open up a topic... what of Russia's free media? Heheheheh...
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #8
                Pekka,
                your media is the only exception which only confirms the common rule for the rest of the western media- do not call them terrorists.
                Now read the article.

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                • #9
                  Yes...I was watching American media...its interesting, because as they were following up the putin "Invite Osama" quote.....They said something like "bla bla bla Chechen Seperatists who President Putin believes are terrorists" or somesuch...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pekka
                    But I'd like to continue, that I support free media, they can say what they want, hopefully they have integrity and follow the rules of journalism and are unbiased, I'd say **** government control media
                    But a narrow group owns the media. This elite group gets to choose what words will be used and influence public opinion. It's not exactly freedom of speech.
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                    • #11
                      American and European media calls them- rebels, guman, militants, guerrillas, even fighters sometimes, it calls them anyhow but NEVER calls them TERRORISTS.


                      Um, you do realize that American media calls the terrorists in Iraq as 'militants'. I don't think I've ever heard them refered to as 'terrorists' in a news report. It is usually said a terrorist attack was carried out by Iraqi militants (or insurgents).

                      So yet another uninformed Serb rant... why am I not surprised?
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Giancarlo
                        However, I am forced to open up a topic... what of Russia's free media? Heheheheh...
                        Read the article goddamnit.
                        By the same token, the BBC and other media sources are putting it about that Russian TV played down the Beslan crisis, while only western channels reported live, the implication being that Putin's Russia remains a highly controlled police state. But this view of the Russian media is precisely the opposite of the impression I gained while watching both CNN and Russian TV over the past week: the Russian channels had far better information and images from Beslan than their western competitors.

                        Pekka, BBC's leadership warned their personel to do not call f*ckers who captured school in Beslan terrorists, since they weren't found guilty by court yet. The perfect example of unbiased aproach.

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                        • #13
                          Hey, hey, don't take anger out on me. Look at my signature. I very clearly support Putin. BBC is crap, yes I agree...
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #14
                            An example:



                            Insurgents staged more assassination attempts Wednesday against Iraqi officials in Baghdad and in the northern city of Mosul -- killing one, wounding one, and missing another.


                            Masked insurgents gunned down the son of Nineveh provincial governor, Mosul police said. Laith Duraid Kashmoula was an employee in the Iraqi government's anti-corruption office in Mosul.

                            Insurgents also assassinated the deputy director of Baghdad's Al-Karama Hospital, Abbas al-Husseiny, Iraqi and hospital officials said.

                            Insurgents tried but failed to kill Baghdad's governor, Ali Al-Haidary. His convoy was attacked in a western district of the capital.


                            Terrorist isn't even used once in the article. Why use them for Chechen insurgents when we don't even use it for ones kiling our troops?
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              American and European media calls them- rebels, guman, militants, guerrillas, even fighters sometimes, it calls them anyhow but NEVER calls them TERRORISTS.


                              Um, you do realize that American media calls the terrorists in Iraq as 'militants'. I don't think I've ever heard them refered to as 'terrorists' in a news report. It is usually said a terrorist attack was carried out by Iraqi militants (or insurgents).

                              So yet another uninformed Serb rant... why am I not surprised?
                              There is a big difference between people who shot soldiers on streets of Baghdad and people who capture hostages in schools. They are not exactly the same, their targets are different.

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