The Chechens' American friends

[pchang]

I saw this on Lou Dobbs

Dobbs: Putin says that mid level US officials are meeting with and providing asylum to Chechen terrorists.

Reporter: No that is not true. The State Department never meets with confirmed terrorists.

Dobbs: Isn't that a bit of a cop out since the State Department also defines who is a terrorist?

Reporter: No not at all.

Most Western media is not really biased against Russia. The truth is that they are too lazy and stupid to really question the Government which is biased against Russia.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
An example:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/09/08/iraq.main/index.html

Insurgents staged more assassination attempts Wednesday against Iraqi officials in Baghdad and in the northern city of Mosul -- killing one, wounding one, and missing another.

Masked insurgents gunned down the son of Nineveh provincial governor, Mosul police said. Laith Duraid Kashmoula was an employee in the Iraqi government's anti-corruption office in Mosul.

Insurgents also assassinated the deputy director of Baghdad's Al-Karama Hospital, Abbas al-Husseiny, Iraqi and hospital officials said.

Insurgents tried but failed to kill Baghdad's governor, Ali Al-Haidary. His convoy was attacked in a western district of the capital.

Terrorist isn't even used once in the article. Why use them for Chechen insurgents when we don't even use it for ones kiling our troops?

Don't you see the difference? Did those masked insurgents captured their victims, made a demands and threatened to kill their victims? Were their victims hostages? You've said you don't use the word 'terrorist' for ones who killing your troops. And you think that persons who take children hostages and killing them, deserve the same definition as persons who killing your troops?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I guarentee you CNN and the media outlets would call them insurgents or militants or fundamentalists, but not 'terrorists'. That term is very politically charged and the mainstream media will usually try to avoid that statement. It's the government and military which will say this group is 'terrorist' or that is a 'terrorist' act, etc.

[The Mad Monk]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22behead+hostage%22

[Imran Siddiqui]

Thanks MM .

"Militants behead hostage" is the one that BBC uses, as well as other publications.

Once again, Serb is seeing a slight were none exists.

[DinoDoc]

I say this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. A pox on both your houses if you want to wallow in the cloak of human rights. I don't really know why the same deal cut with Tatarstan couldn't have been cut with Chechnya.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Once again, Serb is seeing a slight were none exists.

Oh really? A group of f*ckers who capture hostages and threaten to kill them is a group of terrorists by definition. Anyone who calls them differently are dumbasses or their sympothyzers.

[Serb]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I say this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. A pox on both your houses if you want to wallow in the cloak of human rights. I don't really know why the same deal cut with Tatarstan couldn't have been cut with Chechnya.

You mean in 1994? They refused. If you mean the current status, I believe after they approved their new constitution, they have more autonomy than Tatarstan.

[Serb]

but enough of this, discuss the article.

[Imran Siddiqui]

A group of f*ckers who capture hostages and threaten to kill them is a group of terrorists by definition.

Once again, ignoring the arguments to see slights where none exists. Look at TMM's link. Even when American hostages are taken, the militants in question are not refered to as 'terrorists' because of the propaganda value of that term in this day and age.

[Serb]

It's pretty stupid, becuase when something smells like sh!t and looks like sh!t it definetly deserves to be called sh!t.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I guarentee you CNN and the media outlets would call them insurgents or militants or fundamentalists, but not 'terrorists'. That term is very politically charged and the mainstream media will usually try to avoid that statement. It's the government and military which will say this group is 'terrorist' or that is a 'terrorist' act, etc.

Of course. The govt tells the media what to call them, and the media follows along.

[Dinner]

The Guardian is widely seen as a trash tabloid which puts political opinion ahead of real facts. In short the Guardian admites they are "advocates" and not Journalists.

Therefor you should take nothing it says seriously.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Serb: I wish you could do the same when talking about Russia. Especially about the quasi-dictatorial polcies of Putin. Though you seem to have a block about calling out **** when things smell like **** and look like ****, but expect others to do so. Like DD said, pot calling the kettle black.

[Giancarlo]

Putin is a very democratic man, who sometimes needs to take a firm hand with some issues.