The Chechen Dilemma

[Serb]

Originally posted by Kidicious
They tried to use them for a trade from what I read. There were some terrorists at the school that were arguing to abandone the mission, but a bomb accidentally went off causing caos.

It's pretty common tactics for dealings with terrorists- to find their relatives to make them convince the terrorists to release the hostages, since who else could be more successful in negotiations with terrorists, if not their relatives?
FSB made a video where those relatives covince terrorists to release the hostages, they were about to send this tape to the terrorists, but explosions started. I don't see how those relatives could be called hostages. Once again it's a common worldwide practice to use relatives for negotiations.

[Kidlicious]

The Fresno Bee here says that they were abducted.

[Dr Strangelove]

The terrorists apparently made a short video of the scene in the gym during their occupation. In one segment on of the terrorists has his foot on a box or book and is talking to a boy and pointing to the box. There appeared to be wires coming out of it. I wonder if the terrorists had concocted some sort of "deadman switch". Perhaps when the first bombs went off the terrorist let his foot slip, and possibly detonated more bombs. The gym was completely destroyed. I doubt that the youingster, who appeared to be somewhere between 11 and 13, survived. How cruel to show a child how you're going to kill him.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Kidicious
The Fresno Bee here says that they were abducted.

Who the hell is Fresno Bee?
Anyhow, considering all this lie western media spreading about Russians, I'm not surprised.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
The terrorists apparently made a short video of the scene in the gym during their occupation. In one segment on of the terrorists has his foot on a box or book and is talking to a boy and pointing to the box. There appeared to be wires coming out of it. I wonder if the terrorists had concocted some sort of "deadman switch". Perhaps when the first bombs went off the terrorist let his foot slip, and possibly detonated more bombs. The gym was completely destroyed. I doubt that the youingster, who appeared to be somewhere between 11 and 13, survived. How cruel to show a child how you're going to kill him.

Yes, it was a "deadman switch". FSB says that terrorists were real proffessionals: the deadman switch, bombs and mines were installed everywhere in the building and had a multiply reserved detonation system, which means that boms could be detonated from various parts of the building.

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[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Good for them.

The US does the same with Iraqi leaders.

As long as they don't hurt them.

How exactly does hostage taking work without hurting the hostage?

[General Ludd]

"Do as we say, or we'll tickle your little sister!" ?

[Serb]

This tactic considered effective, thus used everywhere.
And if you'll put yourself on relative's place, perhaps you'll understand that relatives do not need to be forced by authorities to participate in negotiations, becuase those terrorists are their loved ones and they interested in solving the crisis without the strom when their loved ones terrorists could be killed with pretty high probability.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Serb
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This last photo, that's the boy to whom he showed the deadman switch. Bastard.

I've been doing a lot of school physicals for the past month. Some of the kids I've examined look a lot like the kids in the pictures on AP and Reuters news. A few days ago someone posted on one of the threads about the attack a photo of a little blond girl lying dead on a stretcher with her mother crying by the side of her head. I examined a girl who could have been her twin about a week ago. It makes me think.

[Serb]

I would to thank all people of the world who share our pain. US and some European countries already send planes with medicine to Beslan.
Thanks for your help and words of sympathy guys.:

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Good for them.

The US does the same with Iraqi leaders.

As long as they don't hurt them.

Do you really want us to go down that road? I'm all for getting tough on terrorist, but I don't really want to become them in the process.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


This last photo, that's the boy to whom he showed the deadman switch. Bastard.

I've been doing a lot of school physicals for the past month. Some of the kids I've examined look a lot like the kids in the pictures on AP and Reuters news. A few days ago someone posted on one of the threads about the attack a photo of a little blond girl lying dead on a stretcher with her mother crying by the side of her head. I examined a girl who could have been her twin about a week ago. It makes me think.

Doc,
It's a miracle, but this boy- 10 years old George Farniev survied. He has a knee injury, but he is ALIVE, despite he was just 4-5 meters away from bomb!
"I saw things, that cause my nightmares now. I was injured, but I survived. I still unable to understand why I didn't died" he told to British The Sun.
I was unable to find English version of this article, but from what I understood- he asked one of the terrorist to let him go to drink in nearby room and when he left, the bomb exploded, when he return the place was a bloody mess. All other people on this photo died, next thing he remeber is soldier who crried him away from the building. He told some shoking details, he was an eyewitness how terrorists shot 60 years old elder and 6 years old girl during first day.
It's a real miracle that he survived.
Russian version of the article:

http://www.rambler.ru/db/news/msg.html?pd=1&mid=5023722

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Sprayber



Do you really want us to go down that road? I'm all for getting tough on terrorist, but I don't really want to become them in the process.

I'm not sure you understand what they are doing.

It's the same as when the police go get a relative to try and talk someone down from jumping off of a building.

The US has already done this repeatedly in Iraq.