Attackers seize Russian school

[Velociryx]

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[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Serb
Aside you we didn't invade foreign country, thus violating an international law.

This troll would probably have more effect if you weren't defending your own country that has broken international laws ranging from nuclear proliferation to human rights.

[Serb]

I've never said Russia is an angel... but wtf you are talking about?
ABM treaty? Segregation? Or any other known Russian violations of international laws/human rights?

[ixnay]

In Soviet Russia, school holds you hostage!

[lord of the mark]

This seizing of school children is reprehensible and should be condemned. Actions of Stalin during WW2 are irrelevant in this context.

There remains the question of what Putin can do. He HAS been very firm in Chechnya. Its not clear to me how he can get any tougher, without going way beyond international norms on human rights. OTOH he cant make a deal with a rebel leadership who abused the last deal by invading Dagestan, and who are now firmly allied with AQ.


What he MIGHT do is reexamine the question of where AQ operational leadership is located and how to support efforts to hunt them down.

[:) Smiley]

Nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Historically, getting killed and driven off one's land by vastly superior weapons tends to break the fighting will of a society. See US vs. native americans in the 19th century.

[Solver]

In the news so far, there are about 600 people held hostage, not 200-400 as previously reported. Seven people are dead, several more wounded.

A very bad situation developing - children forced to stand at windows to prevent fire there, mines in the sports hall, and around the school territory.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by ixnay
In Soviet Russia, school holds you hostage!

[chequita guevara]

****ing morons. What do they think the result of this is gonna be? Are these children responsible for anything? Do they want to turn everyone against their struggle? Do they realy think they can win a world wide war against Islam?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Do they want to turn everyone against their struggle?

People still support the Palestinians.

[lord of the mark]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by chegitz guevara
****ing morons. What do they think the result of this is gonna be? Are these children responsible for anything? Do they want to turn everyone against their struggle? Do they realy think they can win a world wide war against Islam? [/QUOTE


1. They MAY be motivated by desires for the afterlife rather than this world politics
2. Lets assume 1 is not the case. Is the world going to turn against the terrorists, more so than now?? And where are Basayev and the Chechen rebel leadership anyway? If they were anywhere in Chechnya accessible to Russian arms wouldnt the Russians have gotten them by now?

[chequita guevara]

A lot of people are disgusted by Russian attrocities in Chechnya. If this school is blown up, who will care?

[Solver]

And where are Basayev and the Chechen rebel leadership anyway? If they were anywhere in Chechnya accessible to Russian arms wouldnt the Russians have gotten them by now?

One of the best things about Russians is that they, indeed, kill the radical leaders upon finding out their whereabouts .

I got no idea on what could Russians do now. It's clear that the terrorists won't give up their position and leave the school. It's clear that meeting their demands is impossible. But, an attack is also very hard. It's not like the theater in 2002. Terrorists see what the Russians are doing, they'll be warned in advance, and can shoot all hostages before the troops reach them. I imagine the only feasible solution is to again use some powerful gas to knock everyone out, but it isn't that easy...

[chequita guevara]

Russia should probably start warning its people that it is unlikely to be able to get the children out.

Maybe they should tell the terrorists that for every child killed, 20 Chechen prisoners will be shot and buried in pig ****.

[pchang]

Hmm

Chegit's last two posts are quite contradictory. Which one does he really support?

Chechen aims and AQ aims coincide in some areas. I am not sure the Chechens want to impose a Taliban like state on the whole world. If they do, then Chechen aims and AQ aims are one and the same.