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  • Don't worry Sir Ralph, its incrementalism, some here in the US don't want our troops to leave Germany for some strange reason.

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    • the hospital doesn't just support attack troops in Iraq. If a sailor is injured on a ship or in a navy base in Sigonella, Sicily they will fly them to Germany most likely. Though Sigonella has a clinic I believe, but not a fully capable hospital. That hospital in germany is for serious injuries.
      And what have US soldiers lost in Sigonella, Sicily? Or anywhere else outside the US for that matter?

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      • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


        Which illegal wars are these?
        TECHNICALLY... any military action not unanimously (?) agreed on by the UN Security Council is illegal.

        Don't sweat it though - many countries do this, it's just a posturing position from those who think a world without crime would somehow be a better place.

        NOT to say I think sometimes it's necessary to do this. Not good, but necessary.
        Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
        "The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84

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        • TECHNICALLY... any military action not unanimously (?) agreed on by the UN Security Council is illegal.


          Resolution 1441?

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          • Amongst others, yes...

            As for the US pulling troops out from around the world - it's about time. The Warsaw Pact is no longer posed to impose Communist underwear by military means.
            Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
            "The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84

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            • My point being that Iraq wasn't illegal - there was a security council resolution.

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              • Originally posted by Sir Ralph


                Locate your "quick attack forces" elsewhere, please. The same goes for facilities to support your illegal wars.
                I think all we're going to have in Germany when this is Done (except for a few listening posts) is the Hospital there. Surely, you aren't opposed to a freakin' Hospital?
                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                • read the above posts. He says if it is used to treat citizens in an illegal war, then he is opposed.

                  That is why I countered with my post about sailors and soldiers stationed in Europe who aren't fighting a war getting sick and being flown there for treatment. That's the best hospital we have without flying all the way back to Maryland.

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                  • Re: Re: Re: Re: American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

                    Originally posted by Sir Ralph


                    The European leftists at least, Ned. I bet Winston has different feelings.

                    By the way, where have you been so long? You have been missed. (I know, many others already said that)
                    Ralph, It is good to know that I was missed. I had the feeling several months ago that I was very unwelcome here. You know what I mean, if you think back.

                    Also it hurt that for two straight Hall of Fame ballots, I didn't get a single vote.
                    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

                      Originally posted by Ned


                      Ralph, It is good to know that I was missed. I had the feeling several months ago that I was very unwelcome here. You know what I mean, if you think back.
                      You were missed. You are welcome here. Help is needed with these poor posters that have been overrun with liberal propoganda and lies. Your just the man to do it!

                      Also it hurt that for two straight Hall of Fame ballots, I didn't get a single vote.
                      Sometimes a great artist is neglected while in his prime!
                      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                      • Re: Re: American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

                        Originally posted by Spiffor



                        Excellent thing. American troops weren't needed in Europe anymore, so this withdrawal is simply the sane option.
                        I agree that they aren't needed. That's not why I have mixed feelings. I think that all NATO countries should have reciprocal bases. The more all of our soldiers and politicians can understand each other's culture, the better it is for all of us.

                        While Europe is peaceful now, there is no guarantee that our allies won't need us in the future or that we won't need them.
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • Originally posted by Sir Ralph


                          Yes. By starting a war as usual. And an illegal one, I may add, supporting the terrorist KLA.
                          By preventing one, or several, as usual.

                          Tell that to the Russian paratroopers though.

                          You're welcome, by the way.
                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

                            Originally posted by PLATO
                            Sometimes a great artist is neglected while in his prime!
                            Take Van Gogh - he was practically nobody when he died and look at him. People can't get enough of his works.

                            Ned, am glad to see you back.
                            Who is Barinthus?

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                            • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

                              Originally posted by Ned
                              Ralph, It is good to know that I was missed. I had the feeling several months ago that I was very unwelcome here. You know what I mean, if you think back.
                              I think I know what you're talking about. Sometimes you tend to resort to pretty funny trolls and BAMs, when you're cornered, that helps to provoke such situations. But that aside, you're one of my favorite conservatives, because you make me feel that you're really seriously and passionately defending your views and not merely trolling like so many others. I do respect honesty, even though I may not share your opinion.

                              Also it hurt that for two straight Hall of Fame ballots, I didn't get a single vote.
                              Well, I never gave a damn about that. May be because nobody votes for me either . But I'm by far not an OT regular. May be you'd get votes if you'd show up more often.

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                              • Sometimes a great artist is neglected while in his prime!


                                Yes, John Williams is clearly being deprived of the praise he deserves.

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