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  • #31
    A lowly PM is no Head of State. Our Queen would never engage a commoner in handbag combat.

    Hmm... maybe we could talk the Swedes into playing on our behalf. After all, I think they owe us one from the recently concluded Euro 2004 soccer finals.

    But how do you know the Danish Navy hasn't already fortified the island completely and set up a perimeter? According to Jimmy's article, you can't get to it!

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    • #32
      It's summer time. The Canadians can get there now. You will have to wait a few months.
      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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      • #33
        You're right pchang, we'll get them when winter sets in. Then they'll also be too busy playing hockey to notice anything.

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        • #34
          The palastinians need a country.
          Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Winston
            A lowly PM is no Head of State. Our Queen would never engage a commoner in handbag combat.
            hmm so do you want the Queen or the governor-general-- I'm not really a believer in the monarchy so a deathmatch would be fine by me

            Originally posted by Winston


            Hmm... maybe we could talk the Swedes into playing on our behalf. After all, I think they owe us one from the recently concluded Euro 2004 soccer finals.

            -- Sweden would give a better account no doubt, although we have traditionally had a very good record against them

            Originally posted by Winston

            But how do you know the Danish Navy hasn't already fortified the island completely and set up a perimeter? According to Jimmy's article, you can't get to it!
            satellite imagery. We can pinpoint the heat of every heater and cookstove.

            Seriously though-- we have icebreakers-- heck we have ice-toughened passanger ferries-- Its just none of them happen to be part of the Navy
            You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sprayber
              The palastinians need a country.
              I'm not sure they'd ever be happy there. Not enough people to blow up.

              *runs*

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              • #37
                It would be quite funny if this current dispute actually pressured Canada into acquiring a massive fleet of icebreaking naval ships and they started patrolling the Arctic waters like mad, always suspecting something funny going on somewhere.

                Wasn't there talk some years back of a Chinese submarine crew landing on an ice floe in Canadian territory?

                And what about those Cubans...

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                • #38
                  oh and Winston-- I was just curious and looked at a few sites on naval firepower--from my layman's reading of this stuff, our dozen Halifax class frigates would be as good or better than anything you could send our way. I guess if you don't face a credible naval threat, its hard to justify the expense
                  You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Winston
                    It would be quite funny if this current dispute actually pressured Canada into acquiring a massive fleet of icebreaking naval ships and they started patrolling the Arctic waters like mad, always suspecting something funny going on somewhere.



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                    Actually-- canada should increase its icebreaker capability, irrespective of events in the North

                    People act like its a big empty north and we need to assert our sovereignty-- I don't get that . .. There are native towns dispersed all around that co-operate with candain authorities. Plus there are oil companies up there all over the place and abiding by Canadian law
                    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Flubber
                      oh and Winston-- I was just curious and looked at a few sites on naval firepower--from my layman's reading of this stuff, our dozen Halifax class frigates would be as good or better than anything you could send our way. I guess if you don't face a credible naval threat, its hard to justify the expense
                      Yes well, in the event of actual military confrontation, we'd just be careful to sign ceasefires during the summertime, and continue our icebreaking enforced conquest during hockey season.

                      Plus we'd have world sympathy on our side since we've always been such a sucky little nation.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Flubber


                        Actually-- canada should increase its icebreaker capability, irrespective of events in the North

                        People act like its a big empty north and we need to assert our sovereignty-- I don't get that . .. There are native towns dispersed all around that co-operate with candain authorities. Plus there are oil companies up there all over the place and abiding by Canadian law
                        You should have some kind of presence there, agreed. We've maintained regular naval inspections and continuous military sleigh patrol expeditions in the uninhabited Northern and Eastern parts of Greenland going back a long time. There was a dispute with Norway over Eastern Greenland in the 1930's, and the Germans attempted unsuccesfully to set up weather stations there during WWII, they were engaged each time by Danish patrols and eventually gave it up. Eventhough it's mostly desolate today, you have to have a presence there to see what's going on.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Winston


                          Yes well, in the event of actual military confrontation, we'd just be careful to sign ceasefires during the summertime, and continue our icebreaking enforced conquest during hockey season.
                          True-- if it were the playoffs we would ignore you .. .

                          But I wonder could our air patrols have the range to strafe your icebreakers-- they would be really fat and unmanueverable targets

                          Or maybe send a submarine up-- I wonder how long a diesal-electric sub can stay under the ice?

                          Then again we could always have some curlers throw some rocks at you--


                          Originally posted by Winston

                          Plus we'd have world sympathy on our side since we've always been such a sucky little nation.

                          I don't know there-- Weren't you among the colonizing imperialists ??

                          Also for pansy-assed super obsiquous CANADA to do something, the world would assume there had to be a major affront.
                          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                          • #43
                            Who owns Hans Island?

                            Poland!
                            "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                            I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                            Middle East!

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                            • #44
                              I think Denmark and Canada should settle it with a good ol' fashioned war.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #45
                                And somebody should make a civ2 scn about it.
                                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                                Middle East!

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