Who owns Hans Island?

[:) Smiley]

haha, that'd actually be quite original. I've yet to see much in the ways of arctic warfare scenarios.

[Heresson]

I can make it. There'd be "nature" civ. Imagine that pop-up box: "pinguin attack near Hans island!"
"watch out! we're armed with SEAL weapons"

[Winston]

I hope you're happy, Heresson. Because of that penguin remark, any claim Poland might have had on Hans Ø/Island has just been voided.

[Heresson]

Oh My God, you're completely right! The penguins live on the other pole.
Lets just say that nature civ called for reinforcements, and the great pinguin army crossed both Americas, crushing USA army on the way.
But we'll claim both. The name, a POLE, indicates who is the right owner.

[Solomwi]

Originally posted by Flubber


True-- if it were the playoffs we would ignore you .. .

Do you guys have your own league these days? I can't imagine Canadians caring who wins between Detroit, Colorado, New Jersey, Tampa Bay, Philadelphia...

/me ducks and runs now

[PLATO]

Is this what the fuss is about?

[St Leo]

Leo:
Good sir, whose powers are these?
Captain:
They are of Denmark, sir.
Leo:
How purposed, sir, I pray you?
Captain:
Against some part of Canada.
Leo:
Who commands them, sir? 15
Captain:
The nephews to old Denmark, Rasmussen.
Leo:
Goes it against the main of Canada,
Or for some frontier?
Captain:
Truly to speak, and with no addition,
We go to gain a little patch of ground 20
That hath in it no profit but the name.
To pay five dollars, five, I would not farm it;
Nor will it yield to Denmark or the Canuck
A ranker rate, should it be sold in fee.
Leo:
Why, then the Canuck never will defend it. 25
Captain:
Yes, it is already garrison'd.
Leo:
Two thousand souls and twenty billion dollars
Will not debate the question of this straw:
This is the imposthume of much wealth and peace,
That inward breaks, and shows no cause without 30
Why the man dies. I humbly thank you, sir.
Captain:
Vote NDP, sir.

[Heresson]

(sorry)
Wow, big avatars.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Seriously, Canada needs some ice breaker equipped armed vessels so we can actually get up there, otherwise its liking claiming a crater on the moon, or a ridge on the bottom of the ocea.

And Flubber is correct though, there are towns and villages up there, but they're full of Inuit and they barely consider themselves Canadian anyways... aiside from the bigger places like Iqaluit.

Maybe they should make the whole area part of an international Inuit reserve type thing, like they have between the US and Canadian border, so that the actual border would be irrelavent - its all Inuit.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Seriously, Canada needs some ice breaker equipped armed vessels so we can actually get up there, otherwise its liking claiming a crater on the moon, or a ridge on the bottom of the ocea.

Yeah

Nuke-power, ice-breaking-capable aircraft carriers. That'd really show those evil Danes.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Flubber



I don't know---- the nude aspect might increase the interest in the game when the score is 10-2

Plus we have some very cute curlers believe it or not--although the women's junior event might be of the most interest considering the age pf most apolytoners

Reclusive men in their mid-fifties?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Flubber
.... Plus there are oil companies up there all over the place and abiding by Canadian law

Or so they say.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Sikander


Or so they say.

Well its not easy to hide your presence up there and pretty much anytime an oil company sends a person up there, they are met and monitored by the local inuit band who seem to sit their with their fingers on the speed dial to either their lawyers, the federal government or the media.

Up there you can't install a toilet paper holder without approval of three native authorities of some type and THEN an alphabet soup of geovernmnetal agencies

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Tingkai


Yeah

Nuke-power, ice-breaking-capable aircraft carriers. That'd really show those evil Danes.

Nah-- all we need to do is catch them by suprise. Declare some sort of emergency and request permission to land one of our helicopeters on the Danish ship. Given the state of our helicopters, you have a high probability of inflicting damage right there.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by PLATO
Is this what the fuss is about?

I think so-- The reality is that the fight for these barren rocks has very little to do with the rock itself and everything to do with the effect it may have on the boundaries affecting the nearby seas.

Some nations put forth positions claiming that equidistance is the proper test and then apply that principle with respect to even their smallest island. International tribunals usually don't buy into the idea that a tiny island gets equal weight with a coastline but international boundary law is sufficiently unsettled that there is little certainty on anything.

As for "all the fuss", this was the first I had heard of this one. Disputes with France south of Newfoundland and with the US on the Georges bank were the last ones that had any prominance and both those involved areas with active resource harvests. Any determinations up north are unlikely since , frankly, nobody ( teasing between a few Canadians and Danes on here aside) cares