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  • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
    I actually read an interesting piece a month or so back about how Kerry might end up like Carter. The gist of it was that people are voting for Kerry not because they agree with his views (if such views even exist ), but simply to get Bush out of office. This kind of support would not give Kerry any sort of mandate to push his agenda after being elected, since most of his support will dry up once the primary goal, ie. beat Bush, has been achieved. With no mandate, Kerry ends up like Carter, a President with no political capital, unable to achieve anything of note.

    I think the comparison is a little unfair, though. Carter was at least an honest and moral man...
    Carter wasn't a bad president through lack of a mandate; he was a bad president through lack of an IQ.

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    • he was too nice.
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      • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
        you may see it differently but thats no reasion to say its an ignorant statement.


        The fact that it flies in the face of reality is a good enough reason in my book...
        reality is nothing but one mans perception. if you dont agree with that then i see little hope in talking about anything relevant to life with you.
        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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        • Carter wasn't a bad president through lack of a mandate; he was a bad president through lack of an IQ.




          Carter is an intelligent man.
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          • He was a dumbass president though.

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            • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
              ...Kerry might end up like Carter. The gist of it was that people are voting for Kerry not because they agree with his views (if such views even exist ), but simply to get Bush out of office.
              Howard Dean had a lot to do with Kerry's campaign today. He saw the support that Dean was getting for hating Bush and appealing to the "hate Bush at any cost" wing of the Democratic party so now we have the new John Kerry, albiet having a bit of trouble trying to be a moderate at the same time. As to what he will actually do when he gets into office? Well, ask France and Germany. His views on getting permission slips from Europe before acting have not changed. He is at least consistant on that.

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              • He was a dumbass president though.


                You'll get no argument from me on that point. He did lack a mandate, though.
                Last edited by Drake Tungsten; August 15, 2004, 20:50.
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                • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                  He was a dumbass president though.
                  That's different isn't it. Of course you probably think Raygun was a genious.
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                  • thats the problem with politics today. its an "us" vs "them" mentality, not a "we" "need" "this.
                    "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                    'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                    • Originally posted by Kidicious
                      That's different isn't it. Of course you probably think Raygun was a genious.
                      Compared to Carter, yes. Hell, compared to Carter, GWB is a genious.

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                      • Well, the Seattle Times is the first major paper to pick up the Kerry-Cambodia story. How much longer can the NYT, Post, et al continue to bury this?
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                        • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                          Compared to Carter, yes. Hell, compared to Carter, GWB is a genious.
                          Reagan was not a smart man by any means. Ask his advisors.
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                          • Seattle, a "liberal" stronghold. one day liberal might have a good conitation.
                            "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                            'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                            • Originally posted by Kidicious
                              Reagan was not a smart man by any means. Ask his advisors.
                              I'm talking about policy here.

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                              • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                                This kind of support would not give Kerry any sort of mandate to push his agenda after being elected,
                                Kerry has an agenda? I thought he was just the anti-Bush.

                                Bush had no mandate, considering he lost the election, and had to be appointed. That didn't stop him from acting like he had one. If Kerry doesn't have a mandate, he can still act like he has one, though unless the Dem's take Congress, I can't see him getting very far. Things look good for the Dem's though, considering they've won 100% (3) of the special elections this year, including two in traditional Red states.
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