John Kerry: Unfit For Command

[Lincoln]

[MRT144]

[MRT144]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Even if he was a lying douchebag, he'd need no defense. He hasn't told a single lie as President of the United States, so he's way ahead of his opponent. Who isn't exactly running on his record of "achievement" despite being the incumbent. If the Bushophants had any accomplishments of substance to run on, you wouldn't need to try so hard with the smear campaign.

THAT IS TRUTH RIGHT THERE! BOOYA!

[Drake Tungsten]

Between committee hearings, amendments, floor votes, conference committees, etc., I doubt there's one bill of any significance that has originated with any member of Congress and not been thoroughly bastardized.

When did I say that passing named bills made up the totality of a Senator's record? Way to knock down that straw man, but it really has nothing to do with my point. The passing of bills is indeed a part of a Senator's record (a part Kerry fails miserably in), but so are other activities like participation on commitees. I know you'd like to discount these activities given Kerry's horrible record on them (missed 38 of 49 public hearings while serving on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence between 1993 and 2000), but reality isn't dictated by your spin.

Even if he was a lying douchebag, he'd need no defense. He hasn't told a single lie as President of the United States, so he's way ahead of his opponent.

Oh, so it's OK to be a liar as long as you haven't lied while serving in the position you're lying to acquire...

Come on, MtG, you didn't really write this tripe, did you?

you wouldn't need to try so hard with the smear campaign.

1. It's not a smear campaign, at least on my part. I dislike both Bush and Kerry, but the majority of Poly hates Bush and has him in their crosshairs on a permanent basis. A lot of you have lost your damn minds in support of Kerry, however, and someone needs to point out just what a piece of **** he really is. Sadly, that's fallen to me.

2. I'm not trying hard. A few minutes a day on the blogosphere turns up plenty of embarassing Kerry stories that you'll never hear about from the Big Media.

[MRT144]

Drake, big media has yet to report on the ****ups of bush. like iraq. like anything hes done.

[MRT144]

tow the line a liitle more. dont be so hard up to knock kerry just because all the commie pansies here dont.

[Drake Tungsten]

Drake, big media has yet to report on the ****ups of bush. like iraq. like anything hes done.

Wow, it's only 9 in the morning here and we already have what seems to be a lock on the "most ignorant comment of the day" award. Good show!

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


That's a cute photo. It would be more useful, however, if we saw on what boat, in what squadron or whatever you squiddies call a group of small boats, these fine gents actually served directly with Kerry.

It would be even more useful if we could see what they had to say about him before he pissed off a lot of gung-ho vets with his VVAW activities.

I looked up a couple. One was on a PT boat helping Kerry when he got one of his medals (Bernique I think). Another served on another Swift boat near his etc. etc. Some did respect Kerry in the beginning but it seemed he had a problem with exaggerating his stories (a common problem in the Navy ). When he spun his tall tales after he left his shipmates in order to run for Congress and make a name for himself it was the last straw evidently for many of them. Hey, when I was in the Submarine service I even stuck up for a skipper we used to call "Charlie Tuna chicken of the sea". There is a limit though to how much BS even a sailer can take.

[Kuciwalker]

Lincoln, give it up. It is simply not possible for Kerry to be worse than Bush, unless he was Carter or Hitler or something like that. End of story.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Drake, big media has yet to report on the ****ups of bush. like iraq. like anything hes done.

Wow, it's only 9 in the morning here and we already have what seems to be a lock on the "most ignorant comment of the day" award. Good show!

see drake, this is what im talking about. you say you arent one sided but when someone says something of a different viewpoint, in this case television, print and radio reporting of the ****ups of bush, you come up with an attack like that.

all i see on msnbc, fox news, washington post, 90% of radio networks, is a lapdog relationship with bush

you may see it differently but thats no reasion to say its an ignorant statement.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Lincoln, give it up. It is simply not possible for Kerry to be worse than Bush, unless he was Carter or Hitler or something like that. End of story.

this is the second truth.

[Drake Tungsten]

I actually read an interesting piece a month or so back about how Kerry might end up like Carter. The gist of it was that people are voting for Kerry not because they agree with his views (if such views even exist ), but simply to get Bush out of office. This kind of support would not give Kerry any sort of mandate to push his agenda after being elected, since most of his support will dry up once the primary goal, ie. beat Bush, has been achieved. With no mandate, Kerry ends up like Carter, a President with no political capital, unable to achieve anything of note.

I think the comparison is a little unfair, though. Carter was at least an honest and moral man...

edit: Here's the article, I think...

http://slate.msn.com/id/2096408

Talks more about Kerry's lack of salesmanship and less about his potential lack of a mandate that I remembered, though. Might be combining two articles in my mind. Damn memory...

[Lincoln]

Carter was in subs too but I didn't care for him much either.

[MRT144]

also maybe if bush wasnt doing things that some of us consider a ****up in plain view then it wouldnt be reported. but covert wars can get so nasty.

[Drake Tungsten]

you may see it differently but thats no reasion to say its an ignorant statement.

The fact that it flies in the face of reality is a good enough reason in my book...