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  • #46
    Communists don't wanna talk much about the individual, right? It's the needs of the societal group and all that jazz, and whogivesaratsass about what joe blow wants (unless he's one of the party bosses...I mean, we can't fess up to having "class separation" but dividing haves and have-nots on the basis of the one-party affiliation, well that's a horse of a different color...uh huh).

    So what's the big deal?



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    • #47
      Originally posted by Velociryx
      Communists don't wanna talk much about the individual, right?
      You keep thinking that.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #48
        At the age of 10, I would've thought it was frikkin' cool to have Castro at my birthday party.

        But then, I was a very political child.
        "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
        Drake Tungsten
        "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
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        • #49
          You keep thinking that.

          Hey....I'm getting it straight from several of your comrades in red. Besides, are you *actually* saying that communism DOES talk about the individual (much less individual RIGHTS?...that'd be new!)

          Society as a whole...that's where the magic is. Forget the individual. Forget god. Forget YOUR needs and march to the beat of the big red drum.

          And say it ain't so. As GePap already pointed out, party affiliation all but guarantees the kid a better life than without (implying "class separation" along party lines, even tho strict doctrine tells us it's s'posed to be a classless utopia).

          Kid's gone. Water under the proverbial bridge.

          Interesting, in its way, but....:: shrug::

          -=Vel=-
          The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Velociryx
            You keep thinking that.

            Hey....I'm getting it straight from several of your comrades in red. Besides, are you *actually* saying that communism DOES talk about the individual (much less individual RIGHTS?...that'd be new!)
            Yes, it does. You fail to understand, however, that it is only within a social group the individuals can have any rights. Harming the group in order to aid the individual ultimately harms the individual.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara


              And you do?
              Yes I actually do. Just like I was upset during the Serbs killing all the Muslims in Bosnia, the little deal down in Rawana, and now the Muslim killing the Black African in Sudan.

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              • #52
                If you really cared about him as an individual and not as a cause, you wouldn't be using him to make a political point.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #53
                  Ahhhh....but harming a few individuals who dare to think a bit outside the box (or you know, making their families vanish and stuff)....that *strengthens* the group (and by extension, good for the individuals too...even the vanished ones)

                  I get you.

                  -=Vel=-
                  (now back to your regularly scheduled discussion....just couldn't resist a bit of red baiting...)
                  The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                  • #54
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #55
                      I think Elian should have been sent to the CAR. That way we'd never had to hear of him again

                      (Yes, I'm drunk. Why do you ask?)
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                      • #56


                        Che, you're a good egg. Might not agree with you politically, but you're a good guy...

                        -=Vel=-
                        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          If you really cared about him as an individual and not as a cause, you wouldn't be using him to make a political point.
                          Castro is using him for political points. What 10 year has the whole school turn out for his birthday and the Pres. of the Country show up for his birthday, unless he close friend or relative. Also what 10 year goes to the Party Congress meeting.

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                          • #58
                            Harming individuals who think outside the box harms the group. It's is not good communism to do so, and is the easiest proof that this world has yet to see a true communist society.
                            "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                            Drake Tungsten
                            "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                            Albert Speer

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                            • #59
                              (posting my reply to monolith over in the cap/com thread so's not to continue my blatant threadjack)

                              -=Vel=-
                              The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Joseph
                                Why is stupid to dislike a communist?

                                The cold war for you was over when you were 14.
                                The cold war was over for me when I was 48. Plus I had to take the oath when I was 17 and again at 21 to defend the USA from all enemies which at the time was communisms.
                                The Cold War's so quaint. All of it. MAD, Soviets, nuclear war, bomb shelters, space race. It's cute.
                                Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                                -Richard Dawkins

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