France!

[aaglo]

They didn't know what they were doing, since that woman was not a jew.
Okay, got your point. BTW, it is possible, that those guys may be declared 'looneys' (or what terms do you use) in the 'mental tests' done before the trial. If those mental tests are going to be done. (or what do you call those 'mental state of mind during the crime'-tests?)

[Drake Tungsten]

How would you feel if they had done this to one of your wives, Tass? I doubt you'd be so flippant, in that case.

[Wernazuma III]

This doesn't have anything to do with French people, but with muslim extremists. They seem to breed extremely well in the suburban neighborhoods of French cities though. I wonder what could be a proper strategy against this ever increasing militant muslim anti-semitic terror in France.
Although I think the headscarf-ban is a dangerous error, you might think of it as a helpless effort to do anything against the trend to fanaticism in Franch muslim communities.
Don't get me wrong, it's an erroneous strategy IMHO to force people to laicité in public, i.e. on the surface, (It's just as erroneous as Israel's "defensive measures" or Bush's unilateral war course) while the problem lies somewhere else, deeper.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
How would you feel if they had done this to one of your wives, Tass? I doubt you'd be so flippant, in that case.

True, but if it happend to my wife (singular) I wouldnt be saying "Oh, Russia is PLAGUED with Anti-semetism! ITs in a civil war!11 Run to the US, which has NO ANTISEEMTISM atall!111!". Idtry to to look at it objectively*

[Drake Tungsten]

Gotcha...

[Atahualpa]

Drake you should chill.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

I don't see how this is much different from incidents that's happened in many other European countries.

Are you serious? Women and children get attacked and branded with swastikas in other European countries?

Well, I can't offhand think of an example of exactly that, but we've, for instance, had people murdered on the streets for no apparent reason than their skin colour.

[Pekka]

Yes and again what does this have to do with France. As far as I see it, French played the part of victim only. You got Chirac condeming it, what do you want?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Gotcha...

What? No witty retort?

[Drake Tungsten]

Some real action on the issue? That new guy they appointed to deal with this wave of anti-Semitism is a good start, but they still seem to be downplaying the problem.

[Pekka]

Downplaying the problem?

[Drake Tungsten]

What? No witty retort?

Why? I already reeled you in. Plus, I'm really not that witty...

Downplaying the problem?

Chirac always trys to deflect criticism like many people on this thread have, by claiming that anti-Semitism in France is no more widespread and dangerous than hate crimes in other nations. That's BS and downplays the problem.

[Dinner]

LC: *COUGH* Hitler *COUGH* Melsovic *COUGH*

[dannubis]

cough cough KKK cough

[Pekka]

Drake, what do you expect though.. he's the main commander. You don't want to express any kind of panic, besides, I haven't seen statistics, I know there have been attacks, mostly carried about by the same minority itself, however.. it's trickier than that I'd say, you got the president condemning like every action, that's pretty deep already. Say I get an ass kicking from other minority, it wouldn't even reach the local papers. Let alone president saying anything. And this is France, with a huge population. Also huge minority base.

So, I'd say it's better to downplay it to the public than overblow it. Who knows what he's up to, of course he says to the men working to him 'we need to make this stop'. And then saying 'it's not too bad' to the public, that's the way you do it. And I'm sure you understand... You do realize, that attacks happen, hate crimes happen everywhere in the world, against all minorities and majorities as well, just because the're what ever ethnicity or religion they are, right?