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  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    Well John Stossel is kind of Moore-like. He doesn't have the same hype machine though.
    I think that's a far more astute and accurate comparasion than Rush Limbaugh.
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    • See GePap? That's how it's done!

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      • Originally posted by Guynemer


        I think that's a far more astute and accurate comparasion than Rush Limbaugh.
        agreed...

        except Stossel has some really weird ideas about how good things were pre-New Deal.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • Originally posted by Kidicious
          Spencer,

          What earmarks are those? I would like to know so that I can identify closet communists.
          Closet commies are not easy to identify since they are often confused as far-left liberals. In Moores case, the attempt to portray himself as a 'working man' in speech, dress, and attitudes when clearly he is not one, suggests he's a CC. The content of his movies confirms it.
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          • Originally posted by SpencerH


            Closet commies are not easy to identify since they are often confused as far-left liberals. In Moores case, the attempt to portray himself as a 'working man' in speech, dress, and attitudes when clearly he is not one, suggests he's a CC. The content of his movies confirms it.
            Moore has only enjoyed success in the past 2 years or so... if you don't think he's a working man, you are sorely mistaken. You should learn more about where he grew up and his life before Bowling for Columbine.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • Originally posted by Sava
              good point JohnT... commies aren't usually profitable.
              Are you telling me you dont know of any rich commies? I think JohnT understood my implication that closet commies are not so idealistic as to forgo their earnings (when they have any).
              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
              If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
              Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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              • Originally posted by SpencerH


                Are you telling me you dont know of any rich commies? I think JohnT understood my implication that closet commies are not so idealistic as to forgo their earnings (when they have any).
                well not much of what you are saying is making sense... I would liken your views on Moore to the O"reilly disucssion of who is "unpatriotic". Your weak attempt at an ad hominem against Moore only goes to show you are incapable of debating his opinions and talking points.

                Perhaps you should see the movie and then try to argue his points, rather than whether or not he's a "closet commie".
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • I was wondering, does anyone else envision Ignatius Reilly as basically Micheal Moore?
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                  • I think that's a far more astute and accurate comparasion than Rush Limbaugh.


                    Yes, but Limbaugh is a much more fun comparison and not that far off either. I consider Stossel and Limbaugh to be somewhat similar, just with different mediums.

                    except Stossel has some really weird ideas about how good things were pre-New Deal.


                    And Moore has some really wierd ideas about how bad things are now .
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                    • Originally posted by SpencerH


                      Are you telling me you don't know of any rich commies? I think JohnT understood my implication that closet commies are not so idealistic as to forgo their earnings (when they have any).
                      You mean socialist, not communist. And as a socialist he would be bound to pay his fair share of taxes to redistribute the wealth. As long as he has paid his taxes, then he has fulfilled his societal contract. The rest he can keep and be able to sleep at night.

                      The left wing has nothing against profit in simple concept. The left wing does have a problem with those pursue the all-mighty dollar at the expense of middle-class/poor or the environment.
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                      • Originally posted by SpencerH


                        Are you telling me you dont know of any rich commies? I think JohnT understood my implication that closet commies are not so idealistic as to forgo their earnings (when they have any).
                        Actually, you used the phrase incorrectly. To be "closeted" you have to be something that you refuse to allow the outside world to know... i.e., married gay males who pretend to be fully heterosexual are "in the closet". The more accurate description is that Moore is a closet capitalist.
                        Last edited by JohnT; June 30, 2004, 17:03.

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                        • Originally posted by JohnT
                          I know. Can you imagine the whining and gnashing of teeth on this board if a documentary supporting Dubya actually went into wide release? It'd tear the OT apart. Apart, I tells ya!!!
                          What about the movie "DC: Time of Crisis"? Did it tear this board apart?
                          'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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                          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            And Moore has some really wierd ideas about how bad things are now .
                            for a lot of people... they are
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • You're comparing a quickie made-for-TV knockoff, starring such major B and Z-List talent as Timothy Bottoms, Roger Barnes, and Geoffrey Bowes to a major motion picture?

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                              • I know. Can you imagine the whining and gnashing of teeth on this board if a documentary supporting Dubya actually went into wide release? It'd tear the OT apart. Apart, I tells ya!!!
                                actually... I'd like to see such a movie.

                                That way I can show the righties how to debunk things. That way they can possibly learn how to debate Moore's points rather than just call him names.
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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