So, have YOU seen "Fahrenheit 9/11"?

[Agathon]

With an estimated 8.4 million dollars in ticket sales, after only one day, Fahrenheit 911 is now in fourth place all-time with regard to box office receipts for a documentary.

Source: boxofficemojo.com

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Why's that Sava, because I'm not prostrating myself over an opiniated movie made by someone who has no qualms about depicting a lopsided account of the past 4 years?

Actually, you are, just in the other direction.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Agathon
With an estimated 8.4 million dollars in ticket sales, after only one day, Fahrenheit 911 is now in fourth place all-time with regard to box office receipts for a documentary.

Source: boxofficemojo.com

I wonder if more theaters will start showing it. One of my former coworkers told my last night that 5000 theaters are refusing to show it, some because they received death threats.

[Agathon]

If it keeps selling out people are going to want to see it just to see what all the fuss is about.

I'd say that it will start playing on more screens – the money will be too attractive to many owners. It would be an astonishing own goal for the right if some theatre owner was shot for showing it.

In fact I don't see what all the fuss is about: all Moore has done is take things that the regular press has ignored, or points of view that have not been adequately represented in the press, and given them an airing. Even he says that one of his main aims is to get people talking about this stuff – if the movie does that, then it's a success in his view.

[Harry Tuttle]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Actually, you are, just in the other direction.

Sorry you think so. I was trying to just depict the hypocrisy over the film.

[Agathon]

And another thing – people are complaining about Moore's "gonzo" style: but would as many people pay to see a documentary done in the traditional style? I think not.

Accusing Moore of simplification and playing to the crowd seems bizarre when you consider what mainstream Hollywood does.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Agathon
In fact I don't see what all the fuss is about: all Moore has done is take things that the regular press has ignored, or points of view that have not been adequately represented in the press, and given them an airing. Even he says that one of his main aims is to get people talking about this stuff – if the movie does that, then it's a success in his view.

Actually, what he's done is take things that have trikled out over the years and put them all in one place.

I really liked the part with all the administration officials talking about how Iraw had no WMDs and wasn't a threat to anyone.

[Harry Tuttle]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Look, Republicans!

Arrrrrghhhhh! Oh cmon Che, you agreed with some of my points regarding Moore and his agenda.

[Agathon]

I really liked the part with all the administration officials talking about how Iraw had no WMDs and wasn't a threat to anyone.

Yeah, that was hilarious. As I said before, the right are trying to discredit it by picking at small points, but they daren't try it with the main premises of the movie which are unquestionably true.

[chequita guevara]

Moore fudges a little, but not to the extent to which he is accused. It's a damn good film. It is by far and away the best work he's ever done.

The "prison torture" stuff was neither in prison nor was it torture. A soldier grabbed a prisoner's cheney while mocking him. Unless he didn't use worse stuff (and considering there are open wounds, burn victims, and beheadings in the film, I can't see why he wouldn't), he exagerated the seriousness of the abuse film he had. On the other hand, while he lets U.S. soldiers make asses of themselves at times, the film is very much a tribute to them, movingly so.

[Agathon]

I thought that prisoner humiliation stuff was pretty bad. I also think it would have looked a lot worse if the Abu Ghraib abuses hadn't come to light. In comparison with them, this stuff is rather lame.

[chequita guevara]

Did anyone see ABC's GUANTANIMO last night? The stuff they allowed on film was pretty disturbing, and it was just mental stuff.

Putting a hood over someone isn't so bad, the I imagine that in that Iraqi heat, if must be stifling under them.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I wonder if more theaters will start showing it. One of my former coworkers told my last night that 5000 theaters are refusing to show it, some because they received death threats.

You do realize that there are only 5,659 movie theaters in the country, don't you? You're claiming that there have been death threats to over 88% of the theater management/owners in regards to this one movie, and you offer as proof the word of a "former coworker"?

http://www.natoonline.org/statisticssites.htm

[wraithquote]

"I don't care if you believe everything you hear, just don't repeat it."

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[JohnT]

I gotta tell you, I'm seeing more complaints about "right wing attacks" than I am seeing "right wing attacks." From the "censorship" play to Che talking about 88% of all theaters in the country getting death threats (but with no proof), this film has been nothing more than a masterful hype machine by the premiere hypster of the past decade: Harvey Weinstein.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by JohnT
You do realize that there are only 5,659 movie theaters in the country, don't you? You're claiming that there have been death threats to over 88% of the theater management/owners in regards to this one movie, and you offer as proof the word of a "former coworker"?

"Some" doesn't equal all.

However, your point about heresay is a valid one and I should have checked first.

From michaelmoore.com

As of this morning, a little over 500 theaters have agreed to show the movie beginning next Friday, June 25. There are three national/regional theater chains who, as of today, have not booked the movie in their theaters. One theater owner in Illinois has reported receiving death threats.