So, have YOU seen "Fahrenheit 9/11"?

[Sava]

Re: Re: So, have YOU seen "Fahrenheit 9/11"?

Originally posted by The diplomat


But are the pictures and situations used in their proper context? From the trailer, it seems that they are not. That is why it is nothing but propaganda. Moore takes pictures, quotes and situations and molds them together to fit his agenda.

proper context? in the golf scene where Bush mocks the terrorism issue... what other context could this have been in?

sounds like a strawman to me

you should go see it diplomat... Joe Scarborough urged all his viewers to see it... that way we can have a debate about it!

[General Ludd]

Re: Re: Re: So, have YOU seen "Fahrenheit 9/11"?

Originally posted by Sava
proper context?

The "proper context" is a context where bush looks good. That's why we never hear anything about him that isn't "taken out of context".

[Sava]

Re: Re: Re: Re: So, have YOU seen "Fahrenheit 9/11"?

Originally posted by General Ludd

The "proper context" is a context where bush looks good. That's why we never hear anything about him that isn't "take out of context".

got it

[Verto]

I'm still recovering from Bowling for Columbine.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Verto
I'm still recovering from Bowling for Columbine.

Learning new things hurts your brain, right?

[Verto]

Screw you, Sava.

[chequita guevara]

Verto, this whole Bowling for Columbine horse you're on has been dead for years, after the criticisms of Moore were shown to be false. Really. if you're gonna criticize the guy, try and find something that stands up to the facts.



Hey, have any of you heard about the whistle blower lawsuit against the FBI. Apparently a translater is trying to fight Ashcroft re-classifying declassified documents which this person translated, which purport to show that the FBI recieved explicit warnings of an air attack. She was the translator.

[Sava]

[Caligastia]

I'm still interested to see whether MM keeps his promise that he will "debate any right-wingers on this anytime". Joe Scarborough has invited him on his show already...let's see what MM is made of.

[Verto]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Verto, this whole Bowling for Columbine horse you're on has been dead for years, after the criticisms of Moore were shown to be false. Really. if you're gonna criticize the guy, try and find something that stands up to the facts.

All the criticisms have been shown to be false? So, for example, Michael Moore didn't really lie when he said "Willie Horton released. Then kills again"...except in the DVD release, when he edited it.

Hey, have any of you heard about the whistle blower lawsuit against the FBI. Apparently a translater is trying to fight Ashcroft re-classifying declassified documents which this person translated, which purport to show that the FBI recieved explicit warnings of an air attack. She was the translator.

Ashcroft

[ixnay]

Originally posted by Verto All the criticisms have been shown to be false? So, for example, Michael Moore didn't really lie when he said "Willie Horton released. Then kills again"...except in the DVD release, when he edited it.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

Actually, I have found one typo in the theatrical release of the film. It was a caption that read, "Willie Horton released by Dukakis and kills again." In fact, Willie Horton was a convicted murderer who, after escaping from furlough, raped a woman and stabbed her fiancé, but didn't kill him. The caption has been permanently corrected on the DVD and home video version of the film and replaced with, "Willie Horton released. Then rapes a woman." My apologies to Willie Horton and the Horton family for implying he is a double-murderer when he is only a single-murderer/rapist.

[Gibsie]

I should have known a terrorist like Verto would defend a murderer.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Verto
All the criticisms have been shown to be false?

Did I say all? Of all the ones you could pick, the Willie Horton one was really the silliest.






I have to run to the mall to get fitted for my tux, but then I have to come back and head the opposite direction to get to a theater playing F911. I'm on a bike, in Mid-day Florida weather. Oh well, at least the theater will be cool.

87°F Feels Like 94°F (gonna get up to 101° heat index )
Humidity: 61%

[Sava]

tuxes
florida
MM

[Verto]

Yes, I say that, right after he states that "I can guarantee to you, without equivocation, that every fact in my movie is true." I am puzzled as to when a fact can be untrue, yet remain a fact.

So, he admits there is a "typo", although how one can call it a typo when you use murder instead of rape...he then tries to use sarcasm to make you want to shrug the whole thing off.

Similar to how rockets that place satellites into space are weapons of mass destruction. In his own words, "That Lockheed lets the occasional weather or TV satellite hitch a ride on one of its rockets should not distract anyone from Lockheed's main mission and moneymaker in Littleton: to make instruments that help kill people. That two of Littleton's children decided to engineer their own mass killing is what these guys and the Internet crazies don't want to discuss."