Star Trek vs. Star Wars vs. Babylon 5 Thread

[Lonestar]

ST2 and ST6 are great movies.


But the better Franchise between SW and ST is SW.

For a strictly story and "realism" point of viewm B5 and SG1 are better.

[Frankychan]

1. Star Wars

2. B5 (very close to numbah 1 due to it's possibilities and "realism")

3. Star Trek a very distant 3rd.

[monkspider]

I think the real question here is: what was better? Alien or Aliens?

[joncha]

Alien. No contest.

[GePap]

Aliens, no contest.

[Frankychan]

[Space05us]

Star Wars for the coolness factor

Star Trek for the geekness factor

and

Babylon5 for the OMG look I can rip off Star Trek and do a better job than they did even though thier budget most likely surpasses mine by like a billion dollars - ness factor

[monolith94]

Babylon 5

[Whoha]

Re: Sci-fi in TV and Movies

Originally posted by pchang
is pretty lame about projecting the future of weaponry and warfare. Just take a look at Starship Troopers. In the book, each infrantry man is an incredible fighting machine armed with tactical nukes. In the movie, they might have spaceships, but they are no better armored and armed than current day US Army Rangers.

Have you ever seen the destructive power of the 30mm gun on an A-10 (firing depleted uranium rounds)? It is far more destructive than any sci-fi weapon I have ever seen on TV or the movies. Don't you think people who can regularly cross the distance between stars could do better than that for an infantry weapon?

Some other things that really bother me

Beam Weapons:
If they fire out a continuous beam of destructive power, why don't they ever sweep the weapon while firing?

Smart Weapons:
Our hit rates have gone up by an order of magnitude in the last 20 years. Why do hit rates in the future stay the same or get worse?

Rapid fire:
Why are do most weapons of the future fire single shots? Even the ones that are rapid fire have a slower rate of fire than current day weapons.

Over the Horizon:
Current day weapons routinely target enemies beyond the field of view (over the horizon). Why are weapons of the future limited to line of sight?

those special effects are expensive.

[Whoha]

The master of Orion 3 ending sequence when you conquer the galaxy beats all of those.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by monkspider
I think the real question here is: what was better? Alien or Aliens?

Alien for Suspence, Aliens for general mayhem.

[Sava]

1. Star Wars
2. Star Trek

(not even in the top five of Sci-Fi): Babylon 5

better than Babylon 5:
Stargate SG1
Andromeda
Quantum Leap
Aliens franchise



Sava has spoken!

[monolith94]

Boris - whereas Titanic revolves around the love story, the Ewoks are only a small element of the story.

And they're not even THAT BAD.

Personally, my favorite scifi movie is Metropolis. And not the silent film, although that is great too, but rather the anime. 2001 and Blade Runner would be way up there also.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Whoha
The master of Orion 3 ending sequence when you conquer the galaxy beats all of those.

You actually finished a game?!?!?!?!

ACK!

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Edan
Don't forget Blake's 7!

STAR TREK                               BLAKES 7

 1. The triumph of morality.             1. The triumph of amorality.
 2. The Federation is good.              2. The Federation is evil.
 3. The Federation is an instrument of   3. The Federation is a fascist
    democracy and free speech.              military dictatorship.
 4. Everyone on the ship gets along.     4. Don't turn your back.
 5. Reliable friends.                    5. Betrayal.
 6. Goal: "to explore strange new        6. Goal: to survive, destroy the
    worlds & civilizations", assist         Federation and make a fast
    Federation colonies and promote         buck whenever possible.
    Federation growth.
 7. The basic crew don't die; in fact,   7. The basic crew dies, disappears,
    they come back from the dead.           and finds better things to do.
 8. The Captain has a receding           8. The Captain has a perm.
    hairline or no hair.
 9. The heroes chase things.             9. The heroes are chased.
10. Electric shavers that can stun.     10. Cattle prods that kill.
11. A new planet every episode.         11. A new plot every episode.
12. Special effects.                    12.
13. When nothing else works, the        13. When nothing else works, the
    Captain will try deception.             crew will try a little truth.
14. Disposable extras.                  14. Disposable regulars.
15. The Boy Scout mentality.            15. Niccolo Machiavelli.
16. Occasional sarcasm.                 16. Occasional straight dialogue.
17. Stand by your friends.              17. Stand behind your friends.
18. Love will save the day.             18. Love = carelessness = death.
19. Choosing between good and evil.     19. Choosing the lesser of two evils.
20. Mind-meld.                          20. Telepathy.
21. Transporters are commonplace.       21. Transporters are amazing.
22. Helpless females.                   22. Ball-busting females.
23. An alien crew member.               23. An alien crew member.
24. Computer personality problems.      24. Computer personality problems.
25. Justifying pacifism.                25. Justifying your right to live.

http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~peace/Blakes7/STvsB7

Blake's 7 was fantastic.