Man sues Atkins empire- diet is unhealthy!

[ixnay]

Originally posted by General Ludd But, anyways. A vegetarian diet is the epitome of a healthy diet. It keeps you going, you don't have to worry about diseases and all that nasty stuff you get from meat, and it keeps you fit.

Right, but you have to stop eating meat.

For me a life without meat would be like a life where the sky isn't blue - it's just not right.

edit: when i say meat i'm mostly referring to game that we've hunted for ourselves and we know where it's coming from

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by General Ludd


Heck of a 'misspelling'.

Okay a TYPO

Are you happy half pint?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by bipolarbear

I've heard htta that shizzznitty diet leaves you w/ massive liver and kidney problems 20 yrs after. My mom is doing "the south beach diet" which is like atkins light or something. I keep telling her its's not worth it, but she won't listen.

South Beach is low carb/low-fat, but not as low carb as Atkins.

As far as massive kidney and liver problems after 20 years, that would only be a problem if you were losing weight for 20 years. You are not supposed to stay in ketosis after you reach your goal weight.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Apocalypse

Those commericials are only being run because someone with a book said people on low carb diets should stay away from beer because beer has lots of carbs. This was completely false so the beer companies just want to go out and correct that.

Good job being quick to judge, bigot

how am I a bigot. I just don't like those commercials. Of course I don't like most commercials.

And I fail to see Subway as "health" food. Those commercials annoy me as well.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Where did you get the idea that the human body can't convert fats into glucose? If that were true then there wouldn't be any practical reason for using fat as a means to store energy! Anyway, it's false. The liver is quite adept at converting triglycerides into glucose.

The reponse:

Just for "fun" I can tell you why. Because fats are converted into acetyl CoA, the same thing that Glucose is broken down to in order to enter Krebs. Fat is a way to store massive amounts of 2 carbon units in long chains. but in Mammals, it CANNOT be converted to glucose.

[Provost Harrison]

It doesn't happen in large amounts although can happen in small amounts. I wonder if they are aware that acetyl coA can be converted to glucose? However only in the liver IIRC.

[The Mad Monk]

PH, go to the thread.

I would like to see some head-to-head on this between two obvious experts on biochemistry such as yourselves.

[Solly]

Ted Striker's right. Atkins does help to provide some subtle improvements to the "recommended" diet - white bread, potatoes, white rice are all junk food.

The ideal diet consists of

i) lean protein (chicken, egg whites, tuna)
ii) low-GI carbs (oats, wholemeal bread and pasta, brown and basmati rice)
iii) good fats (peanuts, oily fish, olive oil)
iv) fresh fruit and veg

Always have a protein source with every meal, and never have fats and carbs together. So two types of meal: protein & carbs (earlier in the day), and protein & fats (later in day).

This is all easy. Include 1-2 sessions of weight training a week, a 1-2 sessions of moderate cardio and you'll be moving towards the ideal body shape IMO.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Ted Striker's right. Atkins does help to provide some subtle improvements to the "recommended" diet - white bread, potatoes, white rice are all junk food.

Nope. Carbs are essential to the proper functioning of a human body.

[Solly]

Not those detailed in your quote. It would be healthier not to eat them.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Nope. Carbs are essential to the proper functioning of a human body.

But you don't need that many, just enough to power your brain and red blood cells. Everything else can burn fat.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Nope. Carbs are essential to the proper functioning of a human body.

true. But that doesn't mean flour and refined sugar are good for you.

I think Adkins is a waste. All you need is some good ole' fashioned discipline, and you can lose weight, like me. Granted, not everyone has discipline. But that's another matter.

But I don't eat fries, white bread, and I minimize my refined sugar. Those things are not good for you.

The thing about Adkins is not eating bread. There is nothing wrong with eating 100% whole grain wheat bread. And thjat's what I eat. I think it tastes better too.

[dudemanjack]

"Because the only thing better than meat and potatoes is meat and meat"
-Bud light radio commercial

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Ted Striker's right. Atkins does help to provide some subtle improvements to the "recommended" diet - white bread, potatoes, white rice are all junk food.

The ideal diet consists of

i) lean protein (chicken, egg whites, tuna)
ii) low-GI carbs (oats, wholemeal bread and pasta, brown and basmati rice)
iii) good fats (peanuts, oily fish, olive oil)
iv) fresh fruit and veg

Always have a protein source with every meal, and never have fats and carbs together. So two types of meal: protein & carbs (earlier in the day), and protein & fats (later in day).

This is all easy. Include 1-2 sessions of weight training a week, a 1-2 sessions of moderate cardio and you'll be moving towards the ideal body shape IMO.

You have achieved True Player status. Perfect meal plan.

The beauty of this plan is that you can use it both to gain muscle and to lose fat. Hell, if you are really good at it, you can do both at the same time.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
But you don't need that many, just enough to power your brain and red blood cells. Everything else can burn fat.

It depends on how active you are If you are a rower like lightblue you'd need tons of carbs.

Still, the best way to go about it is to increase the amount of exercise you have.