Man sues Atkins empire- diet is unhealthy!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Not true. You're losing water bound up with glycogen (?), about ten pounds or so.

There isn't that much excess water in a normal person's body, che. Unless you got some kind of kidney disorder or something.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by gunkulator
I invite people to investigate for themselves what actual research has discovered instead of just taking some person's opinion on the matter.

I did look at your cites. None of them showed Aktins is markedly superior to a normal low fat diet at the end of a year.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Do you actually have your own thoughts on this MM, or are you just a parrot?

SQUAWK!!!

Seriously, I don't like this plan, and I doubt the science behind it.

I admit to not knowing much about biochemistry, so when I have the opinion of two people I know who do, and are against it, one stridently so, I tend to believe them over a corporation whose very existance depends on the plan.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


SQUAWK!!!

Seriously, I don't like this plan, and I doubt the science behind it.

I admit to not knowing much about biochemistry, so when I have the opinion of two people I know who do, and are against it, one stridently so, I tend to believe them over a corporation whose very existance depends on the plan.

sure you can't take Atkins at face value, why be a fool? But the contrary studies I've seen have all been paid for by either Vegans or rival companies...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I admit to not knowing much about biochemistry, so when I have the opinion of two people I know who do, and are against it, one stridently so, I tend to believe them over a corporation whose very existance depends on the plan.

Cuz everyone knows Consumer Reports can be bought and paid for.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
There isn't that much excess water in a normal person's body, che. Unless you got some kind of kidney disorder or something.

Depends on whether you're at a healthy weight or not, doesn't it. Sure, skinny people don't have excess water.

[Solly]

Excess water is a diet-related issue, but usually caused by excess sodium and caffeine intake, and funnily enough not drinking enough water.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


SQUAWK!!!

Seriously, I don't like this plan, and I doubt the science behind it.

I admit to not knowing much about biochemistry, so when I have the opinion of two people I know who do, and are against it, one stridently so, I tend to believe them over a corporation whose very existance depends on the plan.

One would think that if the diet were so fundamentally flawed that a college biology book would destroy it, the media would have let us know by now. They seem to relish destroying things even if there is only a minor inkling of something not right. I point you to the death of one Atkins, how played up was his weight, when he died from a head injury and had some infection in the hospital?

I'm sure you're friends are intelligent MM, but come on, if some undergrad could point out a flaw by looking in their textbooks, why hasn't a reputable source?

[Jon Miller]

I don't think that they are undergrads...

JM

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I don't think that they are undergrads...

JM

Then I would expect something more than a citation to a textbook.

[MrFun]

What is this bit about excess water?

Isn't the human body consisted of over 80% water anyway?

[Datajack Franit]

I think it's somewhat around 70%, we are not jellyfish


I'm beginning Atkins as soon as I come back from my trip in Switzerland (I have a volleyball tournament to attend and I don't want to faint right in the middle of the match )

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
I think it's somewhat around 70%, we are not jellyfish

You mean my uncle was bullsh*tting me when he told me that we are all jellyfish?

[Odin]

Originally posted by MrFun
What is this bit about excess water?

I think it's because muscle tissue has less water than fat tissue.


Boris, A. robustus was the size of a chimp. All australopithicines ate mostly fruits and veggies. The robusts ate fresh grass and roots while the graciles ate mostly leaves and fruit. Both did a little scavanging on the side. Our brains didn't start getting bigger until we were forced to scavange more as Africa got drier 2.5 million years ago.

So the vegans are full of BS.


An interesting thing I've read is that much of the trouble with cholesterol is actually from stress. The stress hormone, cortisol, is made from cholesterol. The terms "good" and "bad" cholesterol are misleading. What we call good cholesterol, HDL, is the cholesterol-transporting enzyme when it is empty. LDL is when the enzyme is transporting cholesterol. Since cortisol is made from cholesterol, when you are under stress your LDL levels rise as your body makes more Cholesterol to make into cortisol.


Also, people who's ancestors ate lots of meat, like Europeans, cattle herding black africans, and north Asians, are more resistant to dietary cholesterol than people who's ancestors ate very little meat, like west africans/African Americans, New Gunieans and south Asians.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Depends on whether you're at a healthy weight or not, doesn't it. Sure, skinny people don't have excess water.

Even rotund people don't have excess water as long as you are healthy and don't have strange disorders.

Even though fat tissues got more water, it's still within normal range.