Man sues Atkins empire- diet is unhealthy!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
...and since they know it's Atkins, they know it's as good as Atkins, and since I'm willing to sell it for, oh, say, a quarter of the price of his book, they'll save some bucks and buy mine!

The answer is, yes, you could do that. You have to put it entirely in your own words, however. Since you're a no-name nobody and don't have a publisher, I doubt you'd b able to do more than create a little pamphlet, but even that won't beat out the free Atkins websites. You can get all the information you want at atkins.com, without having to pay. I see no reason anyone would invest in your scheme.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Go over there and tell her yourself.

I'm not registering on Counterglow. It's bad enough I'm addicted to Poly. Let her come register here.

[chequita guevara]

The heart is a muscle. Muscles can burn carbs, but they can also burn fat. The only two types of cells that require carbohydrates to have energy are nerve cells and red blood cells. Every other cell can burn fat and protein in addition to carbohydrates.

Induction is a two week process, not a several week process.

The rest of that post is pure garbage. She continues to go on about a 15 carb day, when there is no such thing. She also introduces a 60 carb max day, which I have no idea where she pulled that from, except maybe her ass. She still persists in arguing that the diet keeps you in ketosis even when you reach stage four, which simply isn't true.

This, in fact, is the true danger of Atkins. People who think they know what the diet is, based on BS assumptions like this person, then go off and try and do something like limit yourself to 15 carbs a day and eat no veggies, etc.

Do some friggan research before venting about a subject on which you have no information.

[East Street Trader]

Two studies came out recently in which groups on Atkins were compared to groups on other diets. One of the surveys was paid for by the Atkins' people but the other was entirely independant. Both were conducted by respected people.

To my surprise they both show Atkins to be beneficial. Speaking from memory, early weight loss was much higher on Atkins but that tailed off so that after about a year the other group were losing weight marginally quicker. But on a whole battery of health checks the Atkins dieters were doing better than the others. Again from memory, arterial obstruction was one of the things tested and the Atkins group did substantially better on that one.

It was probably a Times article where I saw this. But I can't now remember that for sure. (Had it said one group or the other had less memory impairment then I think my lifetime of freedom from diets would have had to come to an end )

I was pretty sceptical about Atkins but the article I read discussing these results said that the medics, dieticians and other informed folk who had also been expressing scepticism are mostly coming round to the belief that the insight which led to the development of the Atkins diet is turning out to be sound.

I have never dieted in my life and have no present intention to do so. But the stuff from the two studies was persuasive enough so that if I found reason to do so it would be the Atkins diet which I rather think I would go for.

[Solly]

You lose more weight on Atkins to begin with as you are losing muscle mass as well. Which is something you definitely do not want to be doing unless you're a real bulky female.

[Combat Ingrid]

"carbs"

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
You lose more weight on Atkins to begin with as you are losing muscle mass as well. Which is something you definitely do not want to be doing unless you're a real bulky female.

youll lose muscle mass if you just sit around and diet, but how is that different from being a regular couch potato? If you work out simultaneously, you will build muscle mass, I certainly have.

[asleepathewheel]

Can someone post reputable websites or journal articles contrary to Atkins' findings. And I don't mean from a text book or from someone's memory. Thanks

[Solly]

Asleepatthewheel - as far as I am remember, there are no reputable studies yet into actual whole diets. Individual foods, sure. But people's interpretation of a "diet" are so different that there's too much randomness in there.

[GhengisFarb™]

All I know is that my personal experiences with Atkins were very good.

Over 15 soldiers in my unit went on Atkins (by the book) and we all lost a lot of fat. Not sure if we lost muscle mass but in 30 days I lost 17 pounds, dropped my 2-mile run time from 22 min to 17:39, and increased my push up and sit up score on the Army Physical Fitness Test by over 20% each.

The first two weeks I felt very sluggish and tired, but around day 12 I started having a lot more energy than I had before going on the diet. We had a lot of other soldiers go on the Atkins diet and I don't know of anyone of them that had bad experiences.

And like chegitz, Park Avenue, and Ted said, Atkins isn't anti-Carb its more of a "quality carb" diet. You can eat healthy useful carbs that have vitamins but the useless ones like white bread and potatoes you rarely ever eat.

Go Dr. Atkins

[MrFun]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

This, in fact, is the true danger of Atkins. People who think they know what the diet is, based on BS assumptions like this person, then go off and try and do something like limit yourself to 15 carbs a day and eat no veggies, etc.

Do some friggan research before venting about a subject on which you have no information.

Perhaps that is true -- that all the anti-Atkins knee-jerk rhetoric is to be blamed for people who are doing the Atkins diet the wrong way.

[Sava]

to stupid man suing: well you dope! What did you expect would happen when you eat nothing but bacon, fat, steak, eggs, and other assorted crap.

The only thing worth learning from Dr. Atkins is that we should eat less "bad carbs" like sugar and processed starches... and more good carbs like wheat products, brown rice, veggies, and fruits.

But cutting down on all carbs across the board is just plain stupid.

[Zero]

whats with the need to go on any kind of retarded diet anyway?

drop the ****ing spoon. stop shoveling ice cream in your mouth.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
youll lose muscle mass if you just sit around and diet, but how is that different from being a regular couch potato?

A regular couch potato doesn't diet.

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
If you work out simultaneously, you will build muscle mass, I certainly have.

In this case, you don't need to diet at all. In fact, you need more food.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
A regular couch potato doesn't diet.

True, of course I was referring to those who just diet and don't exercise. You know there are people like that, don't you ;0

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
In this case, you don't need to diet at all. In fact, you need more food.

first things first, I need rid of these extra pounds. Plus I have a tendency of falling off the wagon wrt exercising. Pure laziness, but the summer brings more workouts, nothing on TV and a gym within half a block (at my apt. complex, a decent all around 24 hour facility, in door pool, racquetball, free )