UN Slams Israel's killings of civillians - Only USA not in favour of vote.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Kucinich
And what exactly should our pilots do when they have gunshots coming towards them?

Looking before shooting helps.

[Jamski]

Until that accusation has some proof behind it, you rely upon the PA for sources for the amount of killed and injured who are simply famous for their accuracy for, among other things, the number of civilians killed (sorry, "massacred") by Israeli soldiers.

Otherwise what your complaint amounts to is "people are being killed in war! Shock!"

Bleh - attack the sources if you can't defend the principles. The honey that sweetens every dictatorship

Anyway - my point is not that people are being killed in war. People are being killed in peacetime - non combatants - and the world stands by and does nothing. Why? Because its Arabs that are doing the dying?

-Jam

[Last Conformist]

My sympathy for anyone who gets bombs dropped on them because they were shooting is limited.

Bush's Israel/Palestine policy is a series of shots from the hip. He doesn't have the attention span to consistently support Sharon.

[Jamski]

He doesn't have the attention span to brush his teeth

-Jam

[Drake Tungsten]

People are being killed in peacetime - non combatants - and the world stands by and does nothing. Why? Because its Arabs that are doing the dying?

The world isn't exactly up in arms about all the dead Israelis, either...

[Arrian]

SSDD (the resolution). *yawn*

Re: bombing a wedding, well, it sucks and all, but honestly, if you fire assault rifles (AK-47) in the air, and somebody drops a bomb on you, I'm not so sure you have much to ***** about. Seriously. First off, what goes up must come down, and AFAIK bullets fired at random into the air often come down on other people. Does anyone cry for them? I'm genuinely sorry for the people who were killed or wounded by the bombs.

-Arrian

[Drake Tungsten]

Did everyone miss the article I posted that questions whether this was a wedding at all? Or are ya'll just ignoring it?

[Arrian]

I chose to ignore it for the purposes of my post. If it comes out it wasn't a wedding, and instead we were bombing insurgents, hurray, I guess. But I'm skeptical of the military's claims. Of course they thought they were shooting at bad guys. They thought that when the bombed the one in Afganistan too.

-Arrian

[Pax]

1. The iraqi's are permitted to have guns so if it's their custom to use these weapons in wedding celabrations in Iraq and not in New York, then we have to respect their customs. Next thing we'll be wanting them to speak english and get baptized.
2. No matter what the political reasons, the U.S. not vetoing the resolution is a step in the right direction.

[Last Conformist]

If it turns out was a legitimate target, well, that's not gonna increase my sympathy for those hit.

[Jamski]

The world isn't exactly up in arms about all the dead Israelis, either...

Nope. Outside of the US they don't get a lot of sympathy. They are the invaders, after all. They are the ones with tanks and APCs vs kids throwing stones and suicide bombers. They are the democracy that elected Sharon.

-Jam

[Last Conformist]

1. The iraqi's are permitted to have guns so if it's their custom to use these weapons in wedding celabrations in Iraq and not in New York, then we have to respect their customs. Next thing we'll be wanting them to speak english and get baptized.

And I'm allowed to run around in dark brown clothes in the woods during elk hunt season. Doesn't change the fact I'm voluntarily subjecting myself to an increased risk of getting shot at.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Jamski
Why? Because its Arabs that are doing the dying?

-Jam

Exactly. No one really cares about Palestinians. Not even Arabs.

[Drake Tungsten]

Nope. Outside of the US they don't get a lot of sympathy. They are the invaders, after all.

Yeah, those teenagers in the club in Haifa are horrible invaders. So are those people at their relatives bar mitzvah. Or those people taking the bus to work. Or ...

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Jamski


Nope. Outside of the US they don't get a lot of sympathy. They are the invaders, after all. They are the ones with tanks and APCs vs kids throwing stones and suicide bombers. They are the democracy that elected Sharon.

-Jam

That's one way to look at it. The other is that Israel was created by the U.N., for better or for worse, and was then attacked, won, and has been fighting on and off with the Arabs ever since.

I was pro-palestinian in the 80s, when I saw those TV shots of Palestinian kids throwing rocks and being shot at with rubber bullets. My stance changed to neutral when the standard resistence method became blowing up as many civilians as possible.

Neither side has much of a claim for the moral highground here. And Sharon may be a bastard, but allegedly the Pals elected Arafat. That's better in some way?

-Arrian