:lol: @ Conservative Punks

[-Jrabbit]

Merle played outlaw country music. Merle was a punk.

There are plenty of bands playing what you're calling "punk music" (presumably you mean three chords or less, fast 4/4 time, and minimal lyrics etc) who are anything but.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Agathon
I guess you are one of those who doesn't think "progressive conservative" is an oxymoron.

He's right. Punk didn't start to have an ideology until The Clash. Before that, it was simply about being able to make your own music.

[Imran Siddiqui]

There are plenty of bands playing what you're calling "punk music" (presumably you mean three chords or less, fast 4/4 time, and minimal lyrics etc) who are anything but.

That's why I SAID punk music is distinct from punk attitude! Duh!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Merle played outlaw country music. Merle was a punk.

Maybe lately (the last few decades), but you can't call Okie from Muskogee outlaw.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I rest my case.

Are you jealous that Pekka is cooler than you'll ever be?

He's Finnish. What's cool about that (apart from the fact that the climate would freeze the balls of a brass monkey)?

[Agathon]

He's right. Punk didn't start to have an ideology until The Clash. Before that, it was simply about being able to make your own music.

Not in Britain. Punk for me doesn't start until the Sex Pistols.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Agathon
Not in Britain. Punk for me doesn't start until the Sex Pistols.

English punk is not the be-all and end-all of punk. Anyway, even if you only like fast and dirty, you should still consider the Dolls, the Stooges, the Velvets, MC5, The Heartbreakers, the Ramones, and the Voidoids all punk. Technically the first four are all proto-punk, but they still have that raunchy, fast sound that the Pistols copied. Richard Hell (of the Neon Boys/Television, the Hearbreakers, & the Voidoids) invented the punk look (not Malcolm McLauren).

[Theben]

Don't forget the Fugs from the mid-sixties.

[Imran Siddiqui]

He's Finnish. What's cool about that

You're a Kiwi. What's cool about that?

Besides, Pekka is too cool for Finland. He's itching to leave. And he's the supercitizen, of course.

[Theben]

Time to let Imran in on a little secret: we just humor Pekka. Anyone whose name is that close to PikkuG loses coolness points by default.

[chequita guevara]

Thebes, you gotta cd burner?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Dude, you are not worthy to stand in the path of the Supercoolguy Pekka!

[Theben]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Thebes, you gotta cd burner?

Ja, but I need to re-install the software.

Irman, Pekka stands in his own path.

[chequita guevara]

Pekka is anti-punk. He is therefore anti-cool.

Mebbie I should take a three-day weekend up to yourplace and burn cds. I'll need a Sharpie.

[Last Conformist]

Since this thread has long since developed into pointless definition-mongering[1][2], I thought I'd ask this - am I the only one who thinks that, stylistically, Theben's "Location" reads alot like a divine epithet form some ancient civilization, probably one inclined to build huge monuments out of hewn stone?

[1] I should know, since I'm a veteran definition-monger.-

[2] Someone said that "Genres were invent so that stupid people can remember what they like". Not actually true, but seems fitting in this thread.

Addendum: Accepting the questionable logic of my previous post, the post immediately above this has Che saying that Pekka is hot. I just thought I'd point it out for the benefit of the stupid.