Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000: notice a pattern here?

[Elok]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
We make big crosses on circles - much more exact results in counting votes than punch button counting-machines and less vulnerable to frauds as digital machines. Why exactly do you prefer digital machines - and I won't accept "easy handling" etc. as an answer.

It provides jobs for the people making the machines. Most of the companies that make 'em are probably Japanese, but at least now the Japanese are happy with us, right?

[Guynemer]

Actually Elok, the main manufacturer of the digital machines is a company called Diebold, based in Ohio. The company's CEO is a major Republican contributor and has pledged to do "everything he can" to help the Republicans win...

[Elok]

Hmph. Thanks for ruining my lame joke. Jerk.

[Imran Siddiqui]

We make big crosses on circles - much more exact results in counting votes than punch button counting-machines and less vulnerable to frauds as digital machines. Why exactly do you prefer digital machines - and I won't accept "easy handling" etc. as an answer.

Because it's easier. I prefer simply to touch the screen than to fill out some paper ballot or make 'crosses on circles'.

[Wernazuma III]

nm, I'm not for irony today, it seems

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Actually Elok, the main manufacturer of the digital machines is a company called Diebold, based in Ohio. The company's CEO is a major Republican contributor and has pledged to do "everything he can" to help the Republicans win...

And if there is any proof that he meant falsifying election results, let us know .

It's kinda hard for the machine makers to know which party will be on which line, because those are determined by the states.

[mrmitchell]

And if there is any proof that he meant falsifying election results, let us know .

If I said I was going to kill you, would you ask for proof where I meant strangling?

(Damn I'm rusty on my analogies.)

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Actually Elok, the main manufacturer of the digital machines is a company called Diebold, based in Ohio. The company's CEO is a major Republican contributor and has pledged to do "everything he can" to help the Republicans win...

Cite? Cause I'll be damned if I can Google this. Here's the closest thing I can find:

Worse yet, the most conspiracy-minded critics are upset that Walden O'Dell, the CEO of Diebold, is a prominent fund-raiser for President Bush. Diebold is headquartered in Ohio, a battleground state that is switching heavily to Diebold touch screens this year. O'Dell wrote in a letter to GOP donors last year: "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President."

Which is more than slightly different from your rewording. Not that that matters to the easily paranoid.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8580838.htm?1c

[Imran Siddiqui]

If I said I was going to kill you, would you ask for proof where I meant strangling?

Not the same at all.

Doing 'everything he can' to help the Republicans win indicates all legal means. After all, I've heard people say they'll do 'everything they can' to help candidate A win... but none of those people have killed candidate B, but by your logic, you'd have be afraid of that .

[mrmitchell]

Doing 'everything he can' to help the Republicans win indicates all legal means.

Who said?

Oh yeah. The benefit of the doubt.

If he said "everything I can", he really should be more careful with his wording. I'm not going to take it further than that, but just as much as he might have meant legally, he sure didn't say it. It's easier to see what's there than what's not there.

I should save this post for posterity, or for when in Summer 2005, someone posts 'MASSIVE 2004 PREZ ELECTION FRAUD' in the OTF.

[Wernazuma III]

Anyhow, if that guy is a Republican contributor, I can understand even less how Democrats can be so lame and allowing this polling system to be used.
Isn't it weird though, that most Republicans favor that polling system while most democrats are against it. I mean, it's not really an ideological point, like abortion laws or drug policy. It's something about democratic principles and standards. Republicans seem to accept readily the erosion those standards.
It's like favoring creationism and at the same time belief in the infallibility of modern technology. (Sorry to those Republicans who don't believe in creationism)

[JohnT]

Wern, weren't you even paying attention back in 2000? IYRC, it was the Dems who had the problem with the paper records, not the Reps.

[mrmitchell]

Wow. I think JohnT lost a major contract or something.

EDIT: You've been in semantics posts in other threads and your count is dangerously high--not to mention your more agressive posting style recently.

SECOND EDIT: There's no 'correct' way to say someone is just irritable, is there?

Yeah, it was a huge contract.

(I edited here so as not to make two posts out of one joke)

[JohnT]

[Imran Siddiqui]

If he said "everything I can", he really should be more careful with his wording.

Well as John pointed out, he didn't say 'everything I can'. Secondly, I've heard many people say that they'd do everything they can to make sure Bush loses. Since they didn't say legally, should we be concerned that those people will assassinate Bush?

John, sometimes I do wonder why we wade into the muck that is the loony left.