Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000: notice a pattern here?

[Sava]

You will have to click on the link in order to view the chart. I found the results quite entertaining.

link: http://americanassembler.com/feature...e_averages.htm

There's also a link to a study about how the public is misinformed about Iraq.

Among those who perceived experts as saying that Iraq had WMD, 72% said they would vote for Bush and 23% said they would vote for Kerry, while among those who perceived experts as saying that Iraq did not have WMD, 23% said they would vote for Bush and 74% for Kerry.

so basically, according to these findings, Bush supporters are stupid... but that is something I already knew.

I'm not sure how credible this is, I just found it amusing.

[MikeH]

Another bit of research into the obvious.

[Drogue]

I like how Florida is in blue, the colour for Gore, even though it states Bush won... Not that this is a partisan study at all

[Sava]

Drogue, yeah I saw that too. They talked about it on the page because Gore actually got more votes in Florida.

[Arrian]

Nah, not partisan at all.

However...

1 Connecticut 113 Gore
2 Massachusetts 111 Gore
3 New Jersey 111 Gore
4 New York 109 Gore
5 Rhode Island 107 Gore

That's what I'm talkin' about, baby. Yeah.

-Arrian

[Sava]

representin' for thE CT!

[MikeH]

There is a comment about that, apparently before it said "Gore" and was blue, but they got complaints.

Let Bush have it, it's a stupid state.

What that shows is that the US states with UK levels of IQ are democrats. So clearly left wing-isim shows intelligence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/05_may/12/testthenation_results.shtml

[Arrian]

Football Clubs - Bottom Five

Cardiff City 86
East Stirling 84
Carlisle 82
Peterborough 80
Burnley 76

I'll have to tell my dad that. He's a Cardiff City fan (born in Cardiff).

-Arrian

[JohnT]

So, Sava links to a source that uses a book that is renowned for its racial implications viz race and IQ, and that's OK?

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1182.shtml

Europeans must have experienced a quantum leap in their IQs
Jan 4, 2004, 09:11
Yong Tiam Kui
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Giving a racist slant to IQ tests


PEOPLE across the planet are more or less blessed with the same degree of intelligence, right? Not so, says Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Ulster, Britain, and Tatu Vanhanen, Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of Helsinki, Finland.

In a paper entited Intelligence and the Wealth and Poverty of Nations, Lynn and Vanhanen are making the racist claim that the populations of Northeast Asian countries have the highest intelligence scores: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, China, Hong Kong and Singapore average 105.

The populations of Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are next with intelligence quotients (IQs) averaging 100.

South Asia, North Africa and most Latin American countries are further down the totem pole with IQs averaging around 85.

And, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean countries are at the very bottom with IQs of 70 or so. Malaysia's national IQ score came to 92.

Lynn and Vanhanen claim that this variability in national IQ is the main determinant for differences in national per capita income and economic growth; followed by factors such as whether individual countries operate market or socialist economies, possess valuable natural resources such as oil and whether they are hobbled by difficulties such as US trade sanctions.

Furthermore, they make the amazing claim that national IQ accounts for as much as 57 per cent of the variance of real GDP per capita in 1998 and 50 per cent of the variance of GNP per capita in 1998.

As if that was not mystifying enough, they add that national IQ also accounts for 37 per cent of the variance in economic growth of per capita GDP 1950-90 and 41 per cent of the variance in economic growth of per capita GNP 1976-98.

It should be noted that Mesopotamia and Egypt gave birth to the earliest civilisations and for thousands of years China, India and the Middle East were great centres of civilisation while Europe was a impoverished backwater.

So, how are the incredibly low IQ scores for modern Indians and Middle Easterners and high scores for Europeans to be explained? "Sometime in the last few centuries, the Europeans must have experienced a quantum leap in their IQs because the Chinese, Indians and Muslims were way ahead before that!" says Universiti Malaya economist Prof Jomo K. Sundram, rather sarcastically.

And, how are we to explain the incredibly low national IQ scores of Latin American countries whose populations are predominantly of European extraction? Were the Europeans who went to Latin America dumber than those who went to the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and those who stayed behind in Europe? "There is no ethnic or racial component to intelligence. One race is not going to have higher IQ than another race.

"There is no evidence of difference in brain size, shape, organisation or structure among people of different races.

"Analyses of genetic differences show that ethnic groups do not differ substantially in the type of genes found, but that great differences among individuals exist within each ethnic group.

"Skin colour is skin deep and means little or nothing more. People get their genes from their families, not from racial groups," says Dr Peter Shephard, chief executive officer of Herrmann BrainMatters (M) Sdn Bhd, a company which specialises in left and right brain profiling.

Dr Shephard says that IQ tests primarily measure verbal/linguistic and logic/maths/technical ability and some visual/spatial ability.

However, Prof Howard Gardner of the Harvard School of Education has documented 11 or 12 forms of intelligence: verbal/linguistic, logic/maths/ technical, musical/rhythmic/ auditory, visual/spatial, motor/body-kines-thetic, inter-personal, intra-personal, naturalist, spiritual/existential, moral/ethical and other forms of sensory intelligence such as taste, smell and touch.

And, there are others who hold that there may be as many as 30 to 40 kinds of intelligence and that every human being has at least three or four of these.

Dr Shephard notes that the validity of IQ test results depends to a large degree on how they are designed.

Obviously, individuals who take an IQ test that requires a certain degree of literacy in a foreign language and familiarity with alien cultural norms would be at a disadvantage if they lacked these attributes.

In the 1920s, for instance, IQ tests carried out on recent US immigrants showed that 87 per cent of Russians, 83 per cent of Jews, 80 per cent of Hungarians and 79 per cent of Italians were "feeble-minded".

Lynn and Vanhanen say their national IQ scores are valid because they were calculated on the basis of published data for 60 countries compiled by earlier researchers using non-verbal tests, but this claim is open to question.

In his article The IQ Racket, British Open University biology professor Steven Rose argues that IQ tests are essentially culture-bound social constructs which mainly test for performance in industrial capitalist societies.

He points out that some IQ tests are termed "culture-free" because they rely on non-verbal skills and subjects that are not easily related to general knowledge.

So, in theory at least, these tests should be equally difficult for anyone, no matter what their background but Rose found that they were anything but "culture-free".

For instance, the standard Stanford-Binet test uses pictures of white faces, some obviously middle-class, others more battered by life, and asks "which is prettier?" The questions, he adds, include: "What is the thing for you to do when you have broken something that belongs to someone else?" According to the test manual, correct answers include: "Restitution or apology or both; mere confession is not satisfactory." To the question "What is the thing to do if another boy (girl, person) hits you without meaning to?", the only satisfactory responses are those which suggest "excusing" or "overlooking the act". The response "I would hit them back" would be incorrect.

Equally problematic is the fact that Lynn and Vanhanen chose to adopt highly questionable, if not laughable, methods to calculate the national IQs of 104 other countries for which no data was available.

They started by making the untenable assumption that the national IQ of any one country would be "closely similar" to those of its neighbours.

So, when there are two or more "appropriate" neighbouring countries, the IQs of these are averaged to obtain an estimated IQ for the country whose IQ is unknown.

For example, they averaged the national IQs of India (81) and Iran (84) to give Afghanistan an IQ of 83! In the case of countries which are racially mixed and for which there is no similar neighbouring country, they assigned IQs to the racial groups on the basis of the known IQs of these groups in neighbouring countries.

For instance, they arrived at a national IQ score of 72 for South Africa by weighting the IQs for the four racial groups (whites: 94; blacks: 66; coloureds: 82; Indians: 83) according to the percentages of these populations (whites: 14 per cent; blacks: 75 per cent; coloureds nine per cent; Indians: two per cent).

While acknowledging the fact that these figures are estimates and as such "certainly contain errors", they nonetheless assume that "the margin of error is relatively small in nearly all cases".

Universiti Sains Malaysia Social Science Department Associate Prof Chan Chee Khoon and Dr Chee Heng Leng, who co-edited Designer Genes — IQ, Ideology and Biology, a collection of highly influential scientific articles that were published in 1984 specifically to debunk IQ mumbo-jumbo prevalent in Malaysia and Singapore at the time, say the IQ theory is only a specific example of the wider phenomenon of scientific racism.

"The issue has been exhaustively debated. Lynn et al are digging up an old corpse that's long been dead and buried, and I don't know if we should be devoting so much time to such shoddy research," they say.

Scientific racism refers to attempts to use scientific language and techniques to support claims of natural superiority of one identifiable human population or group to another.

Its use culminated in Nazi pseudoscience in the 1930s which provided the ideological justification for the persecution and mass genocide of Jews and other peoples not of supposed Aryan stock.

Scientific racism lay dormant for more than 20 years because of the role it played during the Second World War. But, it re-emerged in the West in 1969 with the publication of an article entitled How much can we boost IQ by Arthur Jensen, an American educational psychologist.

In the article, Jensen asserts that it was the innate genetic inferiority of blacks, rather than inequitable social and educational systems, that caused compensatory programmes in the US to fail.

His article caused an immediate furore but he was supported by scientists like William Shockley (Nobel laureate in physics for his work on the transistor) who recommended cash inducements for the sterilisation of blacks and members of the working class to prevent the decline of US national intelligence.

Lynn and Vanhanen, who are the latest proponents of these racist theories, argue that nations whose populations have high IQs will tend to have intelligent and efficient political leaders, and public and private personnel that would contribute to the strength of the economy at all levels, hence making it possible to produce highly sought-after goods and services at competitive prices.

Lynn and Vanhanen say their argument is supported by research in the US, UK and Spain which show that individuals and groups with higher IQ scores tend to have higher incomes.

However, it has also become increasingly popular in recent times to relate success to "emotional intelligence" (EQ). Those who score highest in terms of EQ tend to display greater interpersonal ability and selfconfidence, and are said to rise more quickly to the top of organisations.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology linguistics professor Noam Chomsky suggests that unsavoury characteristics such as ruthlessness, cunning, avarice, subservience to authority, sycophancy and lack of principles might outweigh IQ as factors in the attainment of wealth and power.

Critics say Lynn and Vanhanen have got their argument backwards as it makes far more sense to argue that the populations of rich countries do better on IQ tests because they have access to better nutrition and education.

Dr Shephard says studies show that good nutrition and exposure to a stimulating environment throughout childhood can increase IQ scores by a few points.

"If you come from a poor African country, you could be nutritionally deprived and you might not have received the right environmental stimulation.

"Whole generations could be deprived of their full potential practically from the moment of conception," adds Dr Shephard.

Chan says: "I think it's more likely that they have the causality reversed. A country with a high GDP would be able to provide a material and cultural environment that on average allows for better performance on IQ tests.

"Indeed, the more interesting question, with causality reversed, is why countries like Cuba and the exsocialist countries have high levels of human resource development (including widespread literacy and technical competence), despite relatively low levels of GDP."

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Arrian
Nah, not partisan at all.

However...



That's what I'm talkin' about, baby. Yeah.

-Arrian

Its obvioulsy partisan and innaccurate to boot. I mean realistically if CT folk were all that smart why would they choose to live there?

[JohnT]

What I would like to see is a correlation between per capita income and the election results. Could it be that poor people are voting Republican?

[Arrian]

Says a GEORGIAN?!

Bah. CT is a great place to live*.

-Arrian

* - comment excludes Hartford, Bridgeport, Norwalk and Waterbury.

[Drogue]

Actually, since the Dems in most of the world, would be a centre or centre-right party, it doesn't show that left-wingers are more intelligent at all. If it shows anything, which I doubt, it shows that people who don't give in to knee-jerk reactions and can see more than just their personal gain ("low taxes means more money, screw public services") are generally more intelligent than people who do use knee-jerk reactions and who can see the effects of their actions. This isn't left vs right, since many right wing people would hate the way Bush reacts to things, and the things he does. This would be about one side that appeals to the lowest common denominator, to America pride and blind patriotism, and another side that doesn't as much.

However I think all it tells you is that the North-East has many world class universities, and as such an influx of high IQ people, who being students and professors, tend to be more idealistic and left wing. When they graduate, they go around the country, so spread out the IQ, and when they get jobs, they worry about taxes more, and so are more prone to vote Republican. The fact the best uni's are there gives those states a high IQ, and the fact they have a high proportion of students means they are more likely to vote Dem. Which is why there isn't a strong correlation at all between a voters IQ and the way they vote.

[Az]

MikeH, I think it's normalized for the US population, making the average score in the US 100.

[JohnT]

Having spent 6 months of my life in Connecticut, I echo Ogie's sentiment. It's a dingy place, full of rude people and second-rate infrastructure. Hell, the first time I ever heard "******" spoken loudly, repeatedly, and openly in public was in a bar in Darien CT.