Lord of the Fries

[Al B. Sure!]

2 questions: poor in an urban area, or in a sub-urban area with easier access to other places to buy food?

you mean the opposite right? urban areas have access to supermarkets, corner stores, chinese stores, mcdonalds, etc.

[Theben]

Originally posted by General Ludd
You can get a crown of brocolli and bulk rice for less than that and voila - steamed vegetables and rice. Food for a king.

I'm trying to remember where the supermarket was. IIRC it was a good distance from the apartment, but it's not like we didn't walk everywhere back then anyways. che or bunnygrrl usually did the grocery shopping.

And the food pantry was 1 1/2 miles, but that was free.

[mindseye]

Also, the groceries may not be cheaper when you factor in the time requried to obtain them (much less cooking and clean-up time). Many urban poor do not have their own cars, so a trip to the supermarket may involve a significant amount of time. Plus, you have to go more often because the amount of groceries you can carry on a city bus is limited.

I recall when I lived in San Francisco a few years ago, many supermarkets were pulling out of downtown Oakland, creating a growing problem for many impoverished Oakland residents who lacked wheels.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Albert Speer


you mean the opposite right? urban areas have access to supermarkets, corner stores, chinese stores, mcdonalds, etc.

Depends on the neighborhood. One big complaint in our district is the relative lack of supermarkets. So, given that, once you do assume there are plenty of greasy food joint, it becomes cheaper money and timewise to go to what is convinient, which is NOt going to buy food in a supermarket, specially if you won't have the time to cook it.

[bipolarbear]

Also, the groceries may not be cheaper when you factor in the time requried to obtain them (much less cooking and clean-up time). Many urban poor do not have their own cars, so a trip to the supermarket may involve a significant amount of time. Plus, you have to go more often because the amount of groceries you can carry on a city bus is limited.

Plus, if they were to carry many groceries, that would mean many people have to go to the store at once, which ties up the family.
Do they make bicycles with extra carrying capacity or something? That could help push toward a solution.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by bipolarbear

Plus, if they were to carry many groceries, that would mean many people have to go to the store at once, which ties up the family.
Do they make bicycles with extra carrying capacity or something? That could help push toward a solution.

I've seen someone with what I assume was a home-made wagon attached to his bike. I want one.

[Last Conformist]

There aren't bicycle wagons for sale in the States?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
There aren't bicycle wagons for sale in the States?

I live in Canada but I've never seen one for sale, or in use. (except from the example I just gave. )

[Theben]

We used to sell them and presumably still do, but few people want a pair of ugly racks on the side of their bike.

[chequita guevara]

I'm gonna go get some BBQ pork at Bono's.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Theben
We used to sell them and presumably still do, but few people want a pair of ugly racks on the side of their bike.

The kind of wagon I'm thinking of is pulled behind the bike. How ugly it is is up to you, pretty much.

The one's I've used - for newspaper dealing - have, needless to say, been aggressively ugly.

[Dis]

Originally posted by GePap



2 questions: poor in an urban area, or in a sub-urban area with easier access to other places to buy food?

2. How long ago was that?



Yes it is, so when exactly will the woman working a job for 10 hours a day have time to cook it?

middle class people work just as many hours as poor people. I know guys working 3 jobs to maintain large extravagent houses.

the poor have no excuse, that is my point.

[Dis]

and poor people do not have to worry about carrying large amounts of groceries because they steal the carts and take them home.

although some stores are implementing high tech carts that cannot be rolled outside the parking lot.

[Last Conformist]

In most 'real' restaurants I've run across, it would be trivial to run before paying ...

But surely, legally optaining a cart should be trivial?

[Last Conformist]

From monolith's link:

This week a Chicago nutritionist told a Sun-Times reporter that of course Spurlock put on weight, because he was eating 5,000 calories a day. She suggested a McDonald's three-meal menu that would not be fattening, but as I studied it, I wondered: How many customers consider a small hamburger, small fries and a Diet Coke as their dinner? When was the last time you even ordered a small hamburger (that's not a Quarter Pounder) at McDonald's? Don't all raise your hands at once.

Oh, I agree with the nutritionist that her recommended three meals would not add weight; her daily caloric intake totaled 1,460 calories

That's the caloric needs of a 110lbs woman with a "sedentary" life-style. According to this test, a man of my height and level of physical activity needs a thousand calories a day more to maintain a BMI of 20 (the lower end of the "ideal" region). I submit that most of us wouldn't consider a small hamburger, small fries and a diet coke an acceptable dinner, because it's too little food.

For the record, the last time I ordered a small hamburger in a McD was about a month ago, in Liège. I had two small burgers for lunch. Only time since September I've been to a McD.