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  • i do believe in the first part, but the inconsistency in your reactions makes me question your motives, not mine
    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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    • Originally posted by Sirotnikov
      they judge falt out according to the result, which often can be misleading and failed, instead of juding actions according to the intent.
      The ends justifies the means?
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • Are you the German Fez?
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


          The ends justifies the means?
          Quite the opposite, really -- he's saying that it's all about the means.
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • huh ?

            not quite.

            but hey, whatever rocks your boat
            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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            • Originally posted by The Mad Monk


              Quite the opposite, really -- he's saying that it's all about the means.
              NO, he is saying it is all about the intended outcome, as opposed to the real outcome. So if my intended outcome is to kill a "bad guy" and I end up killing 6 nuns, that makes me morally superior to somoene who killed 6 nuns intending to kill 6 nuns.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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              • Originally posted by GePap


                NO, he is saying it is all about the intended outcome, as opposed to the real outcome. So if my intended outcome is to kill a "bad guy" and I end up killing 6 nuns, that makes me morally superior to somoene who killed 6 nuns intending to kill 6 nuns.
                This is supported by legal hair splitting wrt 1st & 2nd degree murder as well as manslaughter charges.
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


                  This is supported by legal hair splitting wrt 1st & 2nd degree murder as well as manslaughter charges.
                  Yes, it is. Captain Obvious strikes again!
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
                  "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                  "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                  • Originally posted by Lord Merciless
                    Palestinians are animals. Why should we treat animals like humans?

                    I'd like to see Israel drop a big napalm into one of those "chanting Israel's death" demonstration.
                    I hope this is a lame troll attempt.
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • Originally posted by GePap


                      Yes, it is. Captain Obvious strikes again!
                      Captain Redundancy, thank you.
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • Now i got the point. Rantissi's death is Allah's will. He did enough to meet 72 virgins. So Palestinians should be happy that their former leader is about to meet 72 virgins sooner.
                        money sqrt evil;
                        My literacy level are appalling.

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                        • Originally posted by Lord Merciless
                          Palestinians are animals. Why should we treat animals like humans?

                          I'd like to see Israel drop a big napalm into one of those "chanting Israel's death" demonstration.
                          It's not a solution. But sleepgasing (harmless) and forcingly removing them to Syria would be good. But even Syria would not accept such a men.

                          We simply should stop allowing them to work in Israel. If they starve UN is responsible for them. Also I think that UN is responsible for educating illiterate people.
                          money sqrt evil;
                          My literacy level are appalling.

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                          • The ends justifies the means?

                            Nope. That's not what I said.

                            That's exactly what some of the lefties and liberterians here think:
                            The ends (freedom for palestine) justify the means (cold blooded murder of children).


                            I fail to see how judging a persons intention justifies any crimes he intentionally commits. Notice the word "intention" and "intentionally".

                            If the Israeli army would decide to raze a whole city to capture 1 person, unless it is Hitler, I'd be very upset at the Israeli army.

                            But, if the Israeli army attempts to bomb terrorist training camps in Lebanon and Syria, and accidentally hits a populated civilian center - then I would be upset at the accident, but not at the Israeli army.

                            Of course there could be criminal neglegance, in which case I would be upset. But in other cases - I would be sorry for the outcome, but won't appologize for the act.

                            NO, he is saying it is all about the intended outcome, as opposed to the real outcome. So if my intended outcome is to kill a "bad guy" and I end up killing 6 nuns, that makes me morally superior to somoene who killed 6 nuns intending to kill 6 nuns.

                            It depends.

                            If your intention is to kill a bad guy and you think "ah, I need to kill that bad guy, so lets kill those 6 nuns there, and hope one of them falls on him, crushing him to death" - they you'd be giulty.

                            If your intention is to kill a bad guy, but you accidentally shoot 6 nuns that appeared out of nowhere before you could stop your automatic rifle, then you are not guilty.

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                            • Originally posted by Felch


                              This is what makes you [Spiffor] a sick ****. This is what makes your eye-rolling crap so gut-wrenchingly disgusting. The fact that you think abstract political concepts are worth murdering over, shows conclusively, that the idea of an enlightened Europe superior to America, is a fabrication.
                              Ah Felch. The man who wanted the US to carpet bomb Falluja.
                              Last edited by Tripledoc; May 6, 2004, 22:28.

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                              • Palestinian terrorists

                                Eurocoms that defend their actions x Infinite
                                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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