i do believe in the first part, but the inconsistency in your reactions makes me question your motives, not mine
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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
they judge falt out according to the result, which often can be misleading and failed, instead of juding actions according to the intent.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Are you the German Fez?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Quite the opposite, really -- he's saying that it's all about the means.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Originally posted by GePap
NO, he is saying it is all about the intended outcome, as opposed to the real outcome. So if my intended outcome is to kill a "bad guy" and I end up killing 6 nuns, that makes me morally superior to somoene who killed 6 nuns intending to kill 6 nuns."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
This is supported by legal hair splitting wrt 1st & 2nd degree murder as well as manslaughter charges.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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Originally posted by Lord Merciless
Palestinians are animals. Why should we treat animals like humans?
I'd like to see Israel drop a big napalm into one of those "chanting Israel's death" demonstration.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Originally posted by GePap
Yes, it is. Captain Obvious strikes again!"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Lord Merciless
Palestinians are animals. Why should we treat animals like humans?
I'd like to see Israel drop a big napalm into one of those "chanting Israel's death" demonstration.
We simply should stop allowing them to work in Israel. If they starve UN is responsible for them. Also I think that UN is responsible for educating illiterate people.money sqrt evil;
My literacy level are appalling.
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The ends justifies the means?
Nope. That's not what I said.
That's exactly what some of the lefties and liberterians here think:
The ends (freedom for palestine) justify the means (cold blooded murder of children).
I fail to see how judging a persons intention justifies any crimes he intentionally commits. Notice the word "intention" and "intentionally".
If the Israeli army would decide to raze a whole city to capture 1 person, unless it is Hitler, I'd be very upset at the Israeli army.
But, if the Israeli army attempts to bomb terrorist training camps in Lebanon and Syria, and accidentally hits a populated civilian center - then I would be upset at the accident, but not at the Israeli army.
Of course there could be criminal neglegance, in which case I would be upset. But in other cases - I would be sorry for the outcome, but won't appologize for the act.
NO, he is saying it is all about the intended outcome, as opposed to the real outcome. So if my intended outcome is to kill a "bad guy" and I end up killing 6 nuns, that makes me morally superior to somoene who killed 6 nuns intending to kill 6 nuns.
It depends.
If your intention is to kill a bad guy and you think "ah, I need to kill that bad guy, so lets kill those 6 nuns there, and hope one of them falls on him, crushing him to death" - they you'd be giulty.
If your intention is to kill a bad guy, but you accidentally shoot 6 nuns that appeared out of nowhere before you could stop your automatic rifle, then you are not guilty.
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Originally posted by Felch
This is what makes you [Spiffor] a sick ****. This is what makes your eye-rolling crap so gut-wrenchingly disgusting. The fact that you think abstract political concepts are worth murdering over, shows conclusively, that the idea of an enlightened Europe superior to America, is a fabrication.Last edited by Tripledoc; May 6, 2004, 22:28.
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