Republicans

[GePap]

What norm? 50% of people are not involved at all. You can;t call what 28% of the people who actually voted republican last time want as "the norm".

Stupid two party dictatorship.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by GePap
What norm? 50% of people are not involved at all. You can;t call what 28% of the people who actually voted republican last time want as "the norm".

Stupid two party dictatorship.

28% of the people . . . and they voted Republican. Given half the population doesn't vote, and almost half of those who do vote are voting against the other guy, that 28% is a exceedingly important block of voters.

Arian, the number comes from PBS's Frontline, "The Jesus Factor."

[Ben Kenobi]

current President Bush's lie about Nigerian uranium

Eh?

Nigeria?

You may want to check your facts a little better.

[chequita guevara]

What does one call something from Niger? Nigerese?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
Stupid two party dictatorship.

Most countries seem to have settled on something close that number. Germany has a 2 & 1/2 party system.

Che: IIRC, the Democrats have more party members than the Republicans across the country. The Democrats just vote less often than their Republican counterparts. It seems as if inspiring the Democratic membership to get off their arses and vote would be a better tactic than trolling Republicans.

[chequita guevara]

I'm not pro-Democrat. I'm just anti-Republican. They scare me, like seriously scare me.

[Ben Kenobi]

Just Niger, I believe.

The Niger uranium.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle


So, you can't be a Republican if you're gay?

Or deliberately trying to distort my claim? I am not claiming that you cannot be gay and Republican -- the existence of the Log Cabin Republicans proves that.



What I'm saying is that I find this to be a strange paradox in that too often, too many Republicans are more likely to be homophobic than Democrats. Which is not to say that there are no homophobic Democrats, or that there are no Democrats who would pander to homophobia for political gains (such as Bill Clinton).

But gays have a stronger chance with the Democratic party than the Republican party simply because the religious-right has too much influence over the Republican party.



And DD -- no, I'm not a bigot. If I were, I would not have two friends who are gay Republicans.

[Arrian]

Are you taking it from this?

People often get confused between the terms evangelical and fundamentalist. They mean two different things. Evangelicals are a very broad group. It's probably a third or 40 percent of the population of the United States. Fundamentalists are a subset of that. They are very conservative politically. Have a literalist view of the Bible.

Evangelicals have a much wider range of political views. A lot of them are conservatives, but not all of them. About a third of evangelicals voted for Al Gore. So it's a pretty broad range.

And you tend to think of evangelicals as being fundamentalists because the most well known evangelicals are people like Jerry Falwell who are fundamentalists and are very conservative. But in fact, the evangelicals who are part of Bush's inner circle are not all fundamentalists. They are often very devout evangelicals. But their approach to politics is much more nuanced than the fundamentalist approach. …

Or am I missing some actual census or poll data referenced elsewhere?

-Arrian

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I'm not pro-Democrat. I'm just anti-Republican.

What do you think will be more effective at blunting the rise of Sauron as you see it. Trolling Republicans or getting Dems off their arses.

[chequita guevara]

It was something they said on the program, and I'd heard it elsewhere as well. I may be mistaking evangelical for born-again.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Arrian
True, true. But unfortunately there are so many that think, as Japher apparently does, that all of that is still preferable to the Democrats.

The Dems don't exactly inspire me either, but surely they are the lesser of two evils at this point. SURELY.

-Arrian

Well, they're definitely lesser.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Trolling Republicans or getting Dems off their arses.

To be honest, there are a great deal of Republicans with integrity. I'm hoping they realize the danger before it's too late, and take back control of their party.

[Ben Kenobi]

Che's got it right.

I'm an Evangelical, though I would not be a Fundamentalist because there are many parts of Genesis I don't interpret literally.

Evangelical can be used in a variety of ways, but the way I use it is that these churches tend to favour evangelisation, and believe that all of their members ought to be able to defend their faith. You are either a missions field, or a missionary. Others use the term synonymously with born-again, but this is more common among those less familiar with evangelicals.

[Ben Kenobi]

To be honest, there are a great deal of Republicans with integrity.

I think those folks are perfectly happy with Mr. Bush.