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  • #46
    Originally posted by Sava
    I'm not the one who needs to be educated. I already know US recruitment is stagnating. YOU are the one who needs the info, not me.
    You know nothing. Again this shows that this only affects the reserves, not anything else. And besides that a draft would counter-productive. It is better to have well trained volunteers out there, then poorly trained conscripts.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #47
      ST Louis Today

      Seems that recruitment hasn't been hurt quite as bad as some would think. I still have no doubt that retention in the guard will be hurting later on.
      "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
      "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
      "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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      • #48
        Wow I agree with Fez! . Draft would have a devastating effect on the economy, amplifying the idiocy of the war in the first place!

        God knows it's be a good way to increase the slaughter out there
        "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
        "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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        • #49
          Wow I agree with Fez!
          Dude, don't encourage him.
          "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
          "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
          "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Whaleboy
            Wow I agree with Fez! . Draft would have a devastating effect on the economy, amplifying the idiocy of the war in the first place!

            God knows it's be a good way to increase the slaughter out there
            You don't agree with me because I agreed with the Iraq war and supported it. It was for a greater good in removing a mad-man. However, there are people trained and able for job, and I'm not one of them.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #51
              You don't agree with me because I agreed with the Iraq war and supported it. It was for a greater good in removing a mad-man. However, there are people trained and able for job, and I'm not one of them.
              But your experience at shooting commies on your computer? We agree that the draft is an error.
              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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              • #52
                Giancarlo is one of those chickenhawks who wants other people to die for his psychotic and immoral policies.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sava
                  Giancarlo is one of those chickenhawks who wants other people to die for his psychotic and immoral policies.
                  **** you. I can support the war and not go. I'll support the country in the best way I can, and I'm not strong armed enough to go into a war. So don't even ****ing try that crap with me.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #54
                    Google search for "military recruitment goals" turned up ZERO stories on goals not being hit. Several articles on how the war has not hurt recruitment, albiet the most recent was August.

                    Sava, please educate me and reveal your source!
                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • #55
                      **** you. I can support the war and not go. I'll support the country in the best way I can, and I'm not strong armed enough to go into a war. So don't even ****ing try that crap with me.
                      But Fez you should be on the front lines! Words are all very well but if you really want to show commitment to your ideals you should be prepared to fight and die for them! For all we know, you could be just another Stalinist behind your veil of ad hominem...
                      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                      • #56
                        Giancarlo and Sava... keep it up and you are both toast... either in this thread or any other... no more warnings.
                        Keep on Civin'
                        RIP rah, Tony Bogey, Baron O and Slowwhand

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Sava

                          PLATO: maybe after 24 is over... I'm posting during commercials.
                          Fair enough. Thanks.

                          This bodes ill if it is serious. If the military does begin to experience problems meeting its manpower obligations then it is eithier "stop loss" on a grand scale or the draft eventually.
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • #58
                            Google search for "military recruitment goals" turned up ZERO stories on goals not being hit. Several articles on how the war has not hurt recruitment, albiet the most recent was August.
                            Check mine. Google News turned it up, and it's from two weeks ago. There are several stories about poor retention in the Guard and Reserves as well, but that was my point anyway, and much of it has to do with this week as opposed to yearly goals.
                            "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                            "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                            "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                            • #59
                              Hmmm....something appears to be missing.


                              *PLATO wonders if Sava will be able to post after 24 is over*
                              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Kirnwaffen


                                Check mine. Google News turned it up, and it's from two weeks ago. There are several stories about poor retention in the Guard and Reserves as well, but that was my point anyway, and much of it has to do with this week as opposed to yearly goals.
                                Kirnwaffen, the first article I find searching google news is:

                                http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20040320/topstories/7795.shtml


                                An article detailing how recruitment goals are being met.

                                And here is an article from April 15 where a Pentagon spokesman says:

                                "We're not going to re-implement a draft. There's no need for it at all," a Pentagon spokeswoman, Lt. Cmdr. Jane Campbell
                                http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=IRAQ-DRAFT-04-15-04&cat=II


                                I still see nothing to support recruitment problems. Link anyone??
                                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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