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Originally posted by Dauphin
Yes, they are enforced.
Examples?
btw, since all of these "laws" you speak of must be agreed upon by each member, you can't force someone to do what they haven't agreed to do already, anyways (unless this has changed)
Originally posted by Kucinich
If you stick with that, then the EU will dissolve. You'll come to the point where some members will secede, and if you let them, the remaining member nations no longer have any reason to obey the central government.
My point is that sovereignty lies firmly with the member nations, not in the EU.
Yes, and your point precisely contradicts the above. In the current EU, sovereignity firmly lies with the member states, not the supranational level. The member states have agreed to be members in an organization to whom they grant competences, even the competence of punishing them when they misbehave (fines can be quite hefty).
And this is why a war will not happen: we still are a bunch of countries that bargain with each other. If we want to go further, we will decide this progression the same way: by haggling with each other.
As such the position of each country will be made clear before there is a central government that makes demands. This is why the situation of the EU is very different from the situation of the pre-civil-war US.
The idea of a two-speed EU is progressing fast after the failure of the constitution talks. The British referendum, if it ends up with a NO, will only reinforce the growing idea that we Europeans want different things, and that we should agree to disagree.
So far, the EU is barely more than an integrated economic zone. There is no European army worthy to speak of, there is no European police and so on. As such, member States don't remain in the EU out of fear, but either for ideological reasons (a great many Europeans still think the EU is a good idea, if only for the peace it provides, even though they may despise the anti-democratic decisions, or the concessions made to other countries), or for economical interest.
As such, there is no reason at all to go at war for a matter as trivial as who remains and who leaves. Those who wish to have a political integration will do so. Those who wish not to have it will probably opt out of it. And everything will be fine, after some rough words. That's the EU way.
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Yes, and your point precisely contradicts the above. In the current EU, sovereignity firmly lies with the member states, not the supranational level. The member states have agreed to be members in an organization to whom they grant competences, even the competence of punishing them when they misbehave (fines can be quite hefty).
And this is why a war will not happen: we still are a bunch of countries that bargain with each other.
I've been talking about the EU as a federal government. Obviously it isn't one now. If it lets people leave when they want, it never will be.
Originally posted by Kucinich
btw, since all of these "laws" you speak of must be agreed upon by each member, you can't force someone to do what they haven't agreed to do already, anyways (unless this has changed)
Not quite. Almost all decisions are taken at majority rule in the council, and not at unanimity rule anymore.
For example, let's say all countries but Greece support a law, Greece will be forced to follow it as well as the others.
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
The idea of a two-speed EU is progressing fast after the failure of the constitution talks. The British referendum, if it ends up with a NO, will only reinforce the growing idea that we Europeans want different things, and that we should agree to disagree.
Not that I trust the BBC but they said that the French may vote no in a referendum on the Constitution. How likely is that, and what would it mean for your view that its Britain thats kaiboshing the deal?
One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
Originally posted by Kucinich
What would have happened had the French refused?
They would have ruled against them a third time and likely done nothing.
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Originally posted by Kucinich
What would have happened had the French refused?
There would have been fines. Hefty ones at that.
If a country consistently misbehaves, it is possible to ban it from all the decision process. I think such decision requires the unanimity of all countries bar the concerned one however.
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Originally posted by Spiffor
If a country consistently misbehaves, it is possible to ban it from all the decision process.
How many times before we develop a consistency? We have the fact it took two rulings against the French government before they relented, the French President openly insulting new EU members, the French government is blatantly violating the Stability pact, ...
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I think I need to say this again, as no one seems to get it (except DD): under the Articles of Confederation, Congress could requisition as much money or as many men as it wanted.
It just didn't work. Unless and until the EU gains the power of direct taxation of its citizens, it governs each only through its consent. Until it is more than a confederation of States, it is not a viable federal government.
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